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Menachos 104


(a) Our Mishnah forbids donating one, two or five Lugin of wine.
Why is that?

(b) Why, on the other hand, does the Tana permit a donation of ...

  1. ... three, four or six Lugin? What is the significance of these Shi'urim?
  2. ... more that six Lugin?
(c) We ask whether 'Yesh K'va li'Nesachim' or not.
What are the ramifications of the She'eilah?

(d) What happens to the five Lugin that someone designated, assuming that we hold 'Yesh K'va li'Nesachim'?

(a) Abaye tries to resolve the She'eilah from the Beraisa 'Shishah li'Nedavah'. The first four boxes were marked 'Mosar Chatas', 'Mosar Ashamos', Mosar Asham Nazir' and 'Mosar Asham Metzora'.
What constituted 'Mosar Chatas'?

(b) Which two Ashamos does 'Ashamos' incorporate?

(c) Why was an independent box needed for ...

  1. ... Asham Nazir (see Gilyon ha'Shas)?
  2. ... Asham Metzora?
(d) One of the remaining two boxes was marked 'Mosar Kinin'.
What was the second one marked as?

(e) What happened to the money from all of these boxes?

(a) How does Abaye try to resolve our She'eilah from this Beraisa?

(b) And how do we refute his proof? Why was a box not necessary for the Mosar Nesachim?

(c) Rava resolves the She'eilah from a Beraisa. The Tana learns from the Pasuk in Korach (in connection with the Nesachim) "Kol *ha'Ezrach* Ya'aseh Kachah" that one may donate Nesachim.
What is the minimum quantity of wine that could be donated?

(a) What does the Beraisa learn from ...
  1. ... "Yih'yeh"?
  2. ... "Kachah"?
(b) What does Rava prove from the Tana's Limud from "Yih'yeh" ('Yosif')?

(c) Rav Ashi queries Rava however, from our Mishnah 'Ein Misnadvin Log, Shenayim va'Chamihah'.
Based on 'Shenayim', how does Rav Ashi try to disprove Rava?

(d) On what grounds do we reject Rav Ashi's Kashya?

(a) What does Abaye mean when he says 'Im Timtzi Lomar Yesh K'va li'Nesachim, ad Asarah P'shita Li'?

(b) He is not certain however, what the Din will be in a case where someone bring eleven Lugin.
What are the two sides to the She'eilah?

(c) Why is not obvious that the owner intended to bring two bulls, since they are of the same kind of animal, rather than w lamb and two rams, which are different kinds?

(d) What is the outcome of the She'eilah?

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(a) According to Rebbi Akiva in our Mishnah, one can donate wine but not oil.
What does one do with it?

(b) Rebbi Tarfon holds that one can donate oil too. What is his source?

(c) What does one do with the oil, according to Rebbi Tarfon?

(d) How does Rebbi Akiva counter that?

7) What distinction does our Mishnah draw between partners donating one Isaron of flour on the one hand and an Olah, a Shelamim or a bird, on the other?


(a) What does Rava say about donating a Minchas Nesachim every day?

(b) How does he learn this from the Machlokes between Rebbi Akiva and Rebbi Tarfon in our Mishnah?

(c) Why might we have thought otherwise?

(d) What is now Rava's Chidush?

(a) What are the five Menachos that are incorporated in Minchah S'tam?

(b) Why is 'Revuchah' not counted as a sixth?

(a) What do we try to prove from the Pasuk ...
  1. ... in Vayikra "Takriv Minchah"?
  2. ... in Pinchas "le'Oloseichem"?
(b) We counter the second proof from the Pasuk there "Yakriv Korbano", and the first proof, from the Pasuk "le'Minchoseichem".
So what do we finally learn from the word "Nefesh" (in Vayikra)? In which connection is it written?

(c) What does Rebbi in a Beraisa learn from ...

  1. ... "Asher Yakrivu la'Hashem (in connection with animal Korbanos)"?
  2. ... "Nefesh" (in connection with a Minchah)?
(d) What does Rebbi Yitzchak learn from the fact ...
  1. ... that the Torah writes Nefesh by a Minchah?
  2. ... that the Torah prescribes five different kinds of Minchah ('Chamishah Miynei Tigun')?
***** Hadran Alach 'he'Menachos ve'ha'Nesachim' *****

***** Perek Harei Alai Isaron *****


(a) Someone who undertakes to donate an Isaron, brings one Isaron, says our Mishnah.
What does the Tana say in a case where he ...
  1. ... specifies 'Esronos'?
  2. ... claims that he specified how many Esronos he would bring, but forgot what he said?
(b) Assuming he did not say sixty Esronos, what does he do about the extra ones?

(c) According to the Tana Kama, someone who declared that he will bring a Minchah, may bring any of the five that we listed a little earlier.
What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(d) What must a person bring if he ...

  1. ... declares that he will bring 'Menachos' or 'Miynei Menachos'?
  2. ... claims that he specified which Minchah or Miyn Minchah he would bring, but cannot remember what he said?
(a) Finally, what does the Tana Kama rule in a case where someone claims that he specified a Minchah of Esronim, but cannot remember what he said?

(b) According to Rebbi, he must bring all the Esronim from one to sixty (i.e. one consisting of one Isaron, one of two, one of three ... ).
What is Rebbi's reason?

(a) What do we ask on the Mishnah's first two rulings 'Yavi Echad', 'Yavi Shetayim'?

(b) Then why does the Tana see fit to insert them?

(c) On what grounds does Chizkiyah establish the Mishnah 'Pirashti ve'Eino Yode'a Mah Pirashti, Yavi Shishim Isaron', not like Rebbi?

(d) What does Rebbi Yochanan gain by establishing the Mishnah when the Noder said 'Pirashti Esronos, Aval Lo Kava'tim bi'Cheli'? Why does this ruling differ from Rebbi's second ruling?

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