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Menachos 107


(a) How does our Mishnah know that 'Zahav' means a golden Dinar and not ...
  1. ... an ingot of gold?
  2. ... golden P'rutos?
(b) Rebbi Elazar, who answered the first Kashya, gives the same answer to explain how the Tana knows that 'Kesef' means a Dinar Kesef, and not a lump of silver.
How does Rav Sheishes explain how we know that 'Kesef' does not mean silver P'rutos?

(c) According to Rebbi Eliezer ben Ya'akov, the minimum Shi'ur of 'Nechoshes' is enough to manufacture a little fork. What would such a fork be used for?

(a) Acherim in a Beraisa gives the minimum Shi'ur of iron as enough to manufacture Kalya Oreiv.
What is 'Kalya Oreiv'? What purpose did it serve?

(b) We ask what is the minimum Shiur that he must donate.
What does Rav Yosef answer?

(c) According to others, the Beraisa gives the Shi'ur of iron as a square Amah.
What does Rav Yosef then explain?

(a) What is the minimum Shi'ur that the Tana Kama of our Mishnah gives regarding ...
  1. ... wine?
  2. ... oil?
(b) What does Rebbi say?

(c) Why must the author of the Mishnah be Rebbi Tarfon, and not Rebbi Akiva?

(a) We have already discussed the Tana's source for the three Lugin of wine. We learn that wine can be brought independently from the Pasuk in Korach "Ezrach", and that one can bring larger amounts from "Yih'yeh". From where do we know that ...
  1. ... the basic Shi'ur is three Lugin?
  2. ... that one cannot donate less than that?
(b) Given that we learn the basic Din of a Nidvas Shemen from that of Minchas Nedavah, what did the Rabbanan mean when they explained in front of Rav Papa that ...
  1. ... the Rabbanan in our Mishnah give the Shiur of oil as a Log, because they hold 'Don Miynah u'Miynah'?
  2. ... Rebbi gives the Shi'ur as three Lugin, because he holds 'Don Miynah, ve'Uki be'Asra'.
(c) Initially, Rav Papa disagreed with the Rabbanan. What did he mean when he said that Rebbi learns his opinion from "Ezrach"? How does he hold with regard to 'Don Miynah ... '?

(d) Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua refutes Rav Papa's explanation from a Beraisa, which learns the Din of Nidvas Shemen from "Korban" (and not from "Ezrach"). What does the Tana there add, that makes him convinced that the author of the Beraisa is Rebbi, and not the Rabbanan?

(a) What does our Mishnah mean when it concludes 'Pirashti, ve'Eini Yode'a Mah Pirashti, Yavi ke'Yom Merubeh'?

(b) Why is that?

(c) What does this entail?

(a) According to the Tana Kama, someone who declares 'Harei Alai Olah' must bring a male lamb.
Why is that? Why not a female?

(b) What does Rebbi Elazar ben Azaryah say?

(c) And what does the Noder bring if he remembers that he added ...

  1. ... 'an animal from the family of cattle', but cannot recall which one?
  2. ... 'an animal', but cannot recall which one?
(d) What must he add to that, if he does not even remember mentioning animal?
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(a) What does the Tana say in a case where the Noder remembers saying 'Harei Alai Todah u'Shelamim'?

(b) What if he remembers specifying, but cannot recall what he said?

(c) If someone who undertakes to bring a bull, must bring a bull including its Nesachim to the value of a Manah (fifty Sela'im), how much is he obligated to pay for ...

  1. ... a calf including its Nesachim?
  2. ... a ram and a lamb including their respective Nesachim?
(d) And what does the Mishnah say about a case where the Noder undertook to bring ...
  1. ... 'Shor be'Manah', 'Eigel ba'Chameish', 'Ayil bi'She'tayim' or 'Keves be'Sela'?
  2. ... 'Shor be'Manah', and he brings two worth half a Manah each (or even if each one is worth a Manah minus a Dinar)
  3. ... a black ox, and he brings a white one, or vice-versa?
  4. ... a big ox, and he brings a small one?
(a) The Tana Kama validates a large ox that one brings instead of a small one.
What does Rebbi say?

(b) What do we comment regarding the 'Machlokes' between the Tana Kama ('Yavi Keves') and Rebbi Elazar ben Azaryah ('O Tor O ben Yonah') in the Reisha of our Mishnah?

(c) What does the Beraisa say about someone who declares ...

  1. ... 'Harei Alai Olah le'Mizbe'ach be'Sela'?
  2. ... 'Pirashti, ve'Eini Yode'a Mah Pirashti'?
(a) In the case of 'Pirashti min ha'Bakar, ve'Eini Yode'a Mah Pirashti', why does our Mishnah obligate the Noder to bring a calf as well as a bull? Why will a bull not suffice?

(b) What is then the problem with the continuation of the Mishnah 'Shor be'Manah ve'Heivi Shenayim be'Manah Lo Yatza ... Shachor ve'Heivi Lavan ... Katan Ve'heivi Gadol, Yatza. Rebbi Omer Lo Yatza'?

(c) How do we solve the problem?

(a) Chizkiyah explains that 'Shishah li'Nedavah' (the Mishnah in Shekalim that we cited earlier), corresponds to the six Batei Avos of the Kohanim.
What does this mean?

(b) Why did each Beis-Av require a separate box?

(a) According to Rebbi Yochanan, the distribution of the money into six boxes was to prevent the coins from going bad (due to the otherwise excessive weight); according to Ze'iri, they corresponded to the six animals from which an Olah can be brought.
Which animals?

(b) What exactly does the Mishnah then mean?

(c) Why must the author of the Mishnah in Shekalim then be Rebbi?

(a) bar Pada attributes the six boxes to 'ha'Parim, ve'ha'Eilim, ve'ha'Kevasim, ve'ha'Se'irim, ve'ha'Mosaros, ve'ha'Ma'ah'.
What do the first four have in common? What caused the money to be placed in the boxes?

(b) 'Parim' refers to the bulls of the Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur. What do the other three refer to?

(c) Seeing as the Eilim and the Kevasim were all Ashamos, why did they require separate boxes?

(d) What would they place in the box marked ...

  1. ... 'Mosros'?
  2. ... 'Ma'ah'?
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