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Menachos 92

MENACHOS 92 (12 Teves 5764) - dedicated by Gitle Bekelnitzky and daughters to honor the first Yahrzeit of Joel Bikelnitzky, Reb Yoel Yitzchak ben Shraga Feivish, affectionately known as "Feter Yoel" to everyone in Crown Heights. Beloved uncle of Layah Bergman (Chicago IL), Zahava Mandel (Cedarhurst NY), and Sima Weinstock (Kew Gardens Hills, NY)


(a) Our Mishnah, discussing the Din of Semichah. lists only two Korban Tzibur that require Semichah. According to the Tana Kama, one of these is the Sa'ir ha'Mishtale'ach.
What does Rebbi Shimon say?

(b) They do not argue over the second one. What is it?

(c) All Korbenos Yachid, on the other hand, require Semichah, except for three.
Which three?

(d) An heir is obligated to perform Semichah on his father's Korban.
What does the Mishnah say about him ...

  1. ... bringing Nesachim?
  2. ... declaring a Temurah on his father's Korban?
(a) The Beraisa too, echoes the Machlokes Tana'im cited in our Mishnah.
What is the name of the Tana who argues with Rebbi Shimon?

(b) What problem do we have with the Beraisa, which, after stating that Rebbi Yehudah discards Se'irei Avodas-Kochavim from the list of the Korbenos Tzibur that require Semichah, continues 've'es Mi Avi Tachteihem'?

(c) What does Ravina reply?

(a) On what grounds does Rebbi Shimon object to Rebbi Yehudah's insertion of the Sa'ir ha'Mishtale'ach among the Korbanos Tzibur that require Semichah?

(b) What does Rebbi Yehudah answer?

(c) Rebbi Shimon can hardly argue with the fact that the Sa'ir ha'Mishtalei'ach requires Semichah - since thr Torah specifically writes that it does. His bone of contention with Rebbi Yehudah is that, according to him, the Kohen Gadol's Semichah did not fall under the regular Din of Semichah, but was a Gezeiras ha'Kasuv.

(a) Rebbi Yirmiyah comments that Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Shimon follow their reasoning in a Beraisa. The Tana there, discusses the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos (in connection with the Kaparah on Yom Kipur).
How does he interpret ...
  1. ... "Ve'chiper es Mikdash ha'Kodesh"
  2. ... "ve'es Ohel Mo'ed"?
  3. ... "ve'es ha'Mizbe'ach"?
  4. ... "Yechaper"?
(b) All this refers to Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav where there was a Yedi'ah at the beginning but not at the end.
Which specific Avodah (which Korbanos) does this refer to?

(c) What is then the significance of the blood of ...

  1. ... the Par?
  2. ... the Sa'ir?
(a) If "ve'al ha'Kohanim" refers to the Kaparah of the Kohanim, what is the Pasuk referring to when it adds ...
  1. ... "ve'al Kol Am ha'Kahal"?
  2. ... "Yechaper"?
(b) Which Kaparah is the Tana referring to now?

(c) This is the opinion of Rebbi Yehudah. Rebbi Shimon disagrees with the latter D'rashah. What analogy does he draw between ...

  1. ... the blood of the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh bi'Fenim and the blood of the Kohen Gadol's Par?
  2. ... the Viduy of the Sa'ir ha'Mishtalei'ach and that of the Par?
(d) How can Rebbi Shimon argue with the Hekesh comparing the Kohanim to the Yisre'eilim?
(a) What does Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa, extrapolate from the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with the Par ha'Ba al Kol ha'Mitzvos "Ve'samchu Ziknei ha'Eidah es Yedeihem al Rosh ha'Par"?

(b) How does Rebbi Shimon, who requires Semichah by the Sa'ir Avodas-Kochavim, explain the inference?

(c) We query this however, from another Beraisa, where Rebbi Yehudah makes a similar inference from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos (in connection with the Sa'ir ha'Mishtalei'ach) "Ve'samach Aharon ... al Rosh ha'Sa'ir ha'Chai".
What does Rebbi Shimon extrapolate from this Pasuk?

(a) What problem are we now faced with (concerning the two Beraisos)?

(b) On what grounds does Rav Sheishes query Rebbi Shimon in the first Beraisa? What is wrong with saying that the Kohen Gadol should perform Semichah on the head of the Se'irei Avodas-Kochavim?

(c) So how do we amend the first Beraisa to solve both problems?

(d) What did Rebbi Shimon now say to Rebbi Yehudah?

Answers to questions



(a) Bearing in mind Ravina's tradition (that there are specifically two cases of Korban Tzibur that require Semichah), why does Rebbi Yehudah need to preclude Se'irei Avodas-Kochavim from a Pasuk?

(b) Rebbi Yehudah, in a Beraisa, learns Se'ir Nachshon (by the Chanukas ha'Mizbe'ach, in Parshas Naso) from the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with the Sa'ir Nasi) "Ve'samach Yado al Rosh ha'Sa'ir".
Why does he need a Pasuk for this? Why will the principle that all Korbenos Yachid require Semichah not suffice?

(c) What does Rebbi Shimon say?

(d) What principle does he state to support both his insertion of Se'irei Avodas-Kochavim and the exclusion of Sa'ir Nachshon?

(a) Having learned Sa'ir Avodas-Kochavim from a Pasuk, why does Rebbi Shimon need to state the principle?

(b) Now that he does state the principle, why does he include the Sa'ir Avodas-Kochavim, and not the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh bi'Fenim (on Yom Kipur)?

(c) According to Rebbi Shimon, why do we need both Ravina's principle and the Pasuk ("Ve'samach Yado al Rosh ha'Sa'ir")?
What would have been the problem had we had ...

  1. ... the Halachah and not the Pasuk?
  2. ... the Pasuk and not the Halachah? What else would we have included from a 'Kal va'Chomer'?
(d) What is the gist of the 'Kal va'Chomer'?
(a) How many times does the Torah write "Korbano" in Vayikra (in connection with the Korban Shelamim)?

(b) Besides Bechor, which other two Korbanos do we initially preclude from Semichah, from "Korbano"?

(c) Why, if not for "Korbano", would we have included ('Kal va'Chomer from Shelamim) ...

  1. ... Bechor?
  2. ... Ma'aser Beheimah?
  3. ... Pesach?
(a) What Pircha do we ask on the 'Kal va'Chomer' (of Bechor, Ma'aser and Pesach over Shelamim).
Which Chumra, besides Nesachim, does Shelamim possess, that the other three do not?

(b) So how do we explain the above Limud from "Korbano"?

(c) So what do we learn from these "Korbano"? On whose Korban, besides that of one's friend, does the Pasuk disqualify from performing Semichah?

(d) And whom do we include from the third "Korbano"?

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