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Menachos 64


(a) Rabah then tries to equate Rebbi Yishmael in our Mishnah with Rebbi Chanina S'gan ha'Kohanim there.
How does he do that?

(b) And again, we reject his suggestion on two scores.
Why might ...

  1. ... Rebbi Yishmael agree with the Rabbanan of Rebbi Chanina S'gan ha'Kohanim (who prescribe three men, three scythes, three boxes, even on Shabbos)?
  2. ... Rebbi Chanina S'gan ha'Kohanim agree with the Rabbanan of Rebbi Yishmael (who require three Sa'ah to be cut, even on Shabbos)?
(c) Rav Ashi then tries to equate Rebbi Yishmael with Rebbi Yossi in the Mishnah in Rosh Hashanah. The Tana Kama there permits the witnesses of the new moon to travel to Yerushalayim even on Shabbos, in order to testify, even if the moon was seen in the middle of the sky.
What does Rebbi Yossi say?

(d) How does Rav Ashi now equate the two opinions?

2) Once again, we reject this suggestion on two scores. Why might ...
  1. ... Rebbi Yishmael agree with the Rabbanan of Rebbi Yossi (who permit the witnesses to break Shabbos, even if the moon was seen in the middle of the sky)?
  2. ... Rebbi Yossi agree with the Rabbanan of Rebbi Yishmael?
(a) What does Rabah (or Rebbi Ami) say about a case where the Kohen Shechted two Chata'os Tzibur on Shabbos ...
  1. ... where only one was needed?
  2. ... where, in addition, the blood of the first one spilled, and it was the second one that ultimately attained the Kaparah ...
  3. ... or where the first one turned out to be weak? What would then be the case?
(b) We query this however, from another statement of Rabah, where he rules that if the Kohen had two Chata'os Tzibur before him on Shabbos, a strong one and a weak one, and he Shechted them in that order, he is Chayav. What does he say about a case where he Shechted ...
  1. ... them in the reverse order?
  2. ... the weak one only? Why is that?
(c) How does Rabah now appear to contradict himself?

(d) One answer to this Kashya is that the author of this second statement is not Rabah, but Rebbi Ami.
What is the other answer?

(a) Ravina asked Rav Ashi about a case where someone Shechted the second Chatas, when the first one which initially appeared to be strong, was later discovered to have had weak intestines.
What are the two sides to the She'eilah? According to whom did he ask?

(b) Rav Ashi replied by citing a Machlokes between Rabah and Rava, who discuss a case where a child had fallen into the sea on Shabbos, and someone cast a net to catch fish, and he caught fish plus the child.
What do they both rule in a case where he caught only fish?

(c) If he caught the child as well, Rabah holds that he is Patur.
What does Rava say (though some reverse the opinions)?

(a) In the second Lashon, Rav Ashi connects the two sides of Ravina's She'eilah to the Machlokes (Rabah holds Patur, Rava, Chayav).
What does he say in the first Lashon? In what way is the case of the net different than the Shechitah?

(b) In the first Lashon, why did they need to mention that the fisherman knew that a child had fallen into the sea, seeing as that is not Rabah's reason for saying Patur?

(a) If ten men ran and fetched ten figs on Shabbos, for a dangerously ill man for whom the doctor has prescribed one fig, Rava absolves them all from a Chatas.
What does he say in a case where ...
  1. ... they all left at different times? Why is that?
  2. ... the first fig had already cured him by the time the others arrived?
(b) Rava asked another She'eilah regarding a sick person who needs two figs, and one is faced with either cutting two figs on one stalk, or cutting three figs on one stalk. What is the problem with cutting three figs on one stalk (there where two are permitted)?

(c) How do we resolve the She'eilah?

(d) How is this different from Rebbi Yishmael, who limits the cutting of the Omer to three Sa'ah, forbidding five?

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(a) What does our Mishnah say about the location from which the barley for the Omer has to be cut?

(b) Does this mean that if the barley crops in the vicinity of Yerushalayim are late that year, one is not permitted to bring them from further afield?

(c) What did they once have to bring ...

  1. ... from Gagos Tzerifin"?
  2. ... from Ein Socher?
(d) During the civil war between the two ChaShimona'i brothers, Hurkanus and Aristobulus, when the former besieged Yerushalayim, how did those inside the city manage to bring Korbanos?
(a) What idea did a certain traitor inside Yerushalayim convey to the besieging army? What were his credentials?

(b) How did the besieging army act upon that advice?

(c) What happened as a result of that?

(d) Which curse did the Chachamim subsequently issue (besides the one on whoever reared Chazerim)?

(a) What does this episode have to do with the Seifa of our Mishnah (see also Tosfos DH 've'al Osah Sha'ah')?

(b) What problem arose the following Pesach and Shavu'os, as a result of the siege (even assuming that it had already been lifted)?

(c) Who, in reply to the announcement, advised the men of Yerushalayim to fetch barley from Gagos Tzerifin, and wheat from Ein Socher, when Pesach and Shavu'os respectively, arrived? If he was a Cheresh, how would he have heard the initial announcement?

(d) Since he was unable to speak (or, it appears write), how did he tell them about ...

  1. ... Gagos Tzerifin (when Pesach came round)?
  2. ... Ein Socher (when Shavu'os arrived)?
(a) Who was the one to decipher the Cheresh's hints?

(b) How did he do it?

(a) Three women brought their Kinin (following Zivus).
What is a 'Kein'?

(b) How did the Kohanim initially explain the 'le'Zivasi' said by the one, the 'le'Yamasi', by the second, and the 'le'Onasi' said by the third?

(c) How did Mordechai interpret these expressions?

(d) What difference would it have made whether they were actually Kinei Zivus, or whether the women had designated them as thanks for being saved?

(a) The Mishnah in Shekalim states that Pesachyah was in charge of the Kinin.
Who was Pesachyah? Why was he called by that name?

(b) What objection do we raise to the statement that he also knew all seventy languages?

(c) The members of Sanhedrin had to be wise, good-looking and tall.
Which other two qualities did they require (in addition to knowing all seventy languages)?

(d) Why did they need to know ...

  1. ... the rudiments of witchcraft?
  2. ... all languages?
13) So we conclude that Mordechai was an expert in deciphering double names such as Gagos Tzerifin and Ein Socher.
What other nickname did that earn him?

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