REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf MENACHOS 51
MENACHOS 46 - Dedicated by Mr. and Mrs. D. Kornfeld in honor of the births of three first-born Turkel grandchildren: Ohr Esther, to Eitan and Ayeleth Turkel of Raanana; Yael Nechamah to Avi and Esti Turkel of Passaic; and a baby boy to Shoshi [Turkel] and Yossi Kaufman of Manchester. Mazel Tov to the proud parents and grandparents!
(a) The Beraisa learns from "al Machavas" that the Minchas Chavitin requires a K'li Shareis (as we just explained). What does the Tana learn from the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "ba'Shemen" "ba'Shemen" (from Minchas Nesachim ["ve'Isaron So'les Balul ba'Shemen Kasis Reva ha'Hin"])?
(b) Or perhaps, we suggest, one ought to learn it from a Minchas Nedavah. How much oil would a Minchas Chavitin require if we did?
(c) We suggest that it is preferable to learn 'Tashat' from 'Tashat' from Minchas Nesachim. Why does Minchas Nesachim fall under the category of 'Tamid' any more than a Minchas Nedavah?
(d) The Minchas Chavitin and the Minchas Nesachim override Shabbos and Tum'ah, whereas the Minchas Yachid does not. What is the criterion for being Docheh Tum'ah and Shabbos?
(a) We counter that perhaps one ought to learn 'Yagel' from 'Yagel'. If the 'Yud stands for 'Yachid' (whereas the Minchas Nesachim pertains to a Tzibur), what do the 'Gimel' and the 'Lamed' represent?
(b) How does Rebbi Yochanan ben Berokah learn it from the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with the Minchas Chavitin) "So'les Minchas Tamid"?
(a) Rebbi Shimon says 'Ribah Ka'an Shemen ve'Ribah be'Minchas Kevasim Shemen'. What does he mean by that?
(b) How much oil would the Minchas Chavitin require if we learned it from the Minchas Parim and the Minchas Eilim, as he suggests?
(c) On what grounds does he reject this suggestion? Why does he prefer to learn Minchas Chavitin specifically from Minchas Kevasim?
(a) What problem do we have with the Tana's suggestion to learn Minchas Chavitin from Minchas Nedavah, rather than from Minchas Nesachim?
(b) Who, according to Abaye, is the author of
1. ... the Reisha '"ba'Shemen, Lehosif Lah Shemen"?
2. ... the suggestion 'O K'lach le'Derech Zeh ' ... "ve'Ne'emar be'Minchas Nedavah, Shemen"?
(c) Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua establishes the suggestion too, like Rebbi Yishmael B'no shel Rebbi Yochanan ben Berokah. Based on the words "al Machavas" what are then the two sides to the dilemma? Why might "ba'Shemen" ...
1. ... imply 'Lehosif'?
2. ... the minimum amount of oil?
(d) So Rebbi Yishmael tries to learn it from the 'Din' ('Chavshat' from 'Chavshat'). How does he conclude?
(a) Rava establishes the author of the suggestion too, as Rebbi Shimon (see Rabeinu Gershom). But did Rebbi Shimon not just say that "al Machavas" comes to increase oil?
(b) After refuting the Limud from the Din of 'Chavshat', and being forced to apply his original Limud from "ba'Shemen", why does Rebbi Shimon then need to come on to the Limud of 'Minchah ha'Ba'ah Isaron'?
Answers to questions51b--------------------51b
(a) What does Rebbi Yehudah learn from ...
1. ... the Pasuk "ve'ha'Kohen ha'Mashi'ach Tachtav mi'Banav Ya'aseh Osah"?
2. ... "Osah"?
(b) And what does Rebbi Shimon learn from ...
1. ... "Chok Olam"?
2. ... "Kalil Toktar"?
(c) What are the practical ramifications of Rebbi Shimon's ruling, that the Tzibur brings the Minchas Chavitin?
(a) The Pasuk there "Zeh Korban Aharon u'Vanav Asher Yakrivu la'Hashem" teaches us that both Aharon and his sons brought a Korban on the day they were inaugurated. What does the Tana learn from ...
1. ... "Asher Yakrivu la'Hashem"? What would we have thought had the Torah not written it?
2. ... "ve'ha'Kohen ha'Mashi'ach Tachtav mi'Banav ... "? What would we have thought had the Torah not written it?
(b) Can we extrapolate from what we just learned that a Kohen Hedyot must bring a Korban on the day that he is inaugurated (i.e. when he turns thirty)?
(c) In any case, seeing as we need the Pasuk "ve'ha'Kohen ha'Mashi'ach Tachtav mi'Banav ... " to teach us this latest ruling, how can Rebbi Yehudah learn from it that the heirs are obligated to bring the Minchas Chavitin, in the event of their father's death?
(a) Rebbi Shimon Darshens "ve'ha'Kohen ha'Mashi'ach" in the way that we just explained. What does he learn from "Osah"?
(b) But did we not learn that from the 'Vav' in "u'Machtzisah ba'Erev", as we explained above?
(c) And what does Rebbi Yehudah learn from "Chok Olam"?
(a) The Torah writes "Kalil Toktar" in the earlier Parshah, and "Lo Se'achel" in the later one, the Beraisa says. Which two Parshiyos respectively, is the Tana referring to?
(b) The author of this Beraisa is Rebbi Yehudah (who does not Darshen "Kalil Toktar" like Rebbi Shimon). What does he learn from the Pasuk (in the Parshah of Kohen Hedyot) "Kalil Tih'yeh Lo Se'achel"?
(a) In the Mishnah in Shekalim, Rebbi Shimon lists seven Takanos of Beis-Din. The first, concerns a Nochri who sends a Korban to Yerushalayim from overseas, but without the Nesachim. What Takanah did Chazal institute ...
1. ... regarding the Nochri?
2. ... regarding a Ger who died, leaving Korbanos that he is obligated to bring?
(b) The third Takanah concerns a Kohen Gadol who died without having brought the Minchas Chavitin, which the Chachamim obligated the Tzibur to do if the new Kohen Gadol has not yet been appointed. How does Rebbi Avahu reconcile this with Rebbi Shimon, who ruled earlier that the Tzibur are obligated to bring the Minchas Chavitin mi'd'Oraysa?
(a) What does the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Chukas (in connection with the Parah Adumah) ...
1. ... "Chatas"?
2. ... "Hi"?
(b) How does Rav Ashi reconcile this with the Mishnah in Shekalim, which lists 'Ein Mo'alin be'Afrah' among the Takanos Chachamim?
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