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Menachos 39

MENACHOS 39 (19 Cheshvan) - Dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Chaim Mordechai ben Harav Yisrael Azriel (Feldman) of Milwaukee, by the members of the Feldman family.


(a) What does Rabah bar Rav Ada ... Amar Rav mean when he says 'Im Nifsak Chut Me'ikro, Pesulah?

(b) When Rav Nachman repeated Rav's ruling, Rava queried it from a Beraisa, which requires the full Shi'ur only Lechatchilah, and continues 'Aval be'Sofo Sheyarav ve'Gardumav Kol-Shehu'.
How did Rava interpret ...

  1. ... 'Sheyarav'?
  2. ... 'Gardumav'?
(c) Rav Nachman refuted Rava's Kashya on Rav. How did he explain 'Sheyarav and Gardumav'?
(a) Why did the Tana then need to mention Sheyarav at all? Why did he not just say 'Gardumav'?

(b) What does Kol-Shehu then mean?

(a) What did Rabah in the name of Rav say about the thread that one uses to wind round the other threads (to form the G'dil)?

(b) What did Rabah mean when quoting Shmuel, he said 'Techeiles she'Karach Rubah, Kesheirah'?

(c) And what did he mean by 'Techeiles'?

(a) Rav Yosef disagreed with Rabah over the authorship of both of his statements.
To whom did he attribute them?

(b) Who did actually made the statements?

(c) Rebbi Chiya b'rei de'Rav Nasan adds two details to Rav Huna ... Amar Rav's quotation.
What does he mean when he gives one Chulya as the minimum Shi'ur for the G'dil? How much is one Chulya?

(d) And what does he prescribe as the 'Noy Techeiles' (the ideal way of arranging the Tzitzis)?

(a) The Beraisa gives the minimum Shi'ur G'dil as seven K'richos, and the maximum as thirteen.
What do these numbers symbolize?

(b) What does the Mitzvah of Tzitzis have to do with the seven Heavens?

(c) According to another Beraisa, the first and last K'richos are done with a Lavan thread, and the middle ones, with Techeiles.
Why is that?

(d) What is the reason for the Minhag to arrange five knots (and consequently four Chulyos) in our Tzitzis?

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(a) What was unusual about ...
  1. ... the garment of the man who walked past Rabah bar bar Chanah and Rav?
  2. ... the same man's Tzitzis?
(b) What did Rav comment about ...
  1. ... his garment?
  2. ... his Tzitzis?
(c) What did Rabah bar bar Chanah say?

(d) How did Rabah bar bar Chanah reconcile the two Pesukim "*Gedilim* Ta'aseh Lach" (in Kedoshim) and "Ve'nasnu ... *P'sil* Techeiles" (in Sh'lach-Lecha)?

(a) According to Rav, both are necessary.
Why does the Torah write "Gedilim" (in the plural)? What would we have said had it written "Gedil Ta'aseh Lecha"?

(b) We conclude 'Asei Gedil u'Pasleihu mi'Tocho'.
What might this mean (see Shitah Mekubetzes 1)?

(a) On what grounds do we permit Sha'atnez on a linen garment (Sadin be'Tzitzis)?

(b) What is the problem with Shmuel's ruling, permitting even the Lavan to be made of wool too?

(c) Then on what grounds do we permit it?

(d) We ask what the Din will be in the reverse case, whether one may also attach linen Tzitzis to a woolen garment.
On what grounds might this be permitted?

(a) We resolve this She'eilah from a statement of Rachbah Amar Rav Yehudah.
What does he say about attaching ...
  1. ... woolen Tzitzis on to a linen garment and vice-versa?
  2. ... Tzitzis of wool (of Techeiles) and linen (of Lavan) on to silken garments?
(b) What is the basis of Rav Yehudah's latter ruling? Why might we have thought otherwise?
(a) Rav Nachman disagrees with Rav Yehudah.
What does he say about silken garments of four corners?

(b) What did Rav Nachman reply when Rava queried him from ...

  1. ... a Beraisa which specifically obligates a garment of silk or of Chalach or Sarikin (by-products of silk)?
  2. ... the Seifa 've'Chulan Tzemer u'Pishtim Potrin Bahem'?
(c) What does the Beraisa say in the Seifa about Tzitzis made of silk?

(d) How do we attempt to prove from there that silken garments are indeed only Chayav mi'de'Rabbanan (like Rav Nachman)?

(a) We refute this proof however, with a D'rashah of Rava.
How does Rava reconcile "ha'Kanaf", 'Miyn Kanaf' with "Tzemer u'Pishtim"?

(b) Rav Nachman however, learns like Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael.
If the Torah writes "al Kanfei Bigdeihem" S'tam, from where does Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael learn that it refers exclusively to wool and linen garments?

(c) Abaye cites another Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael.
What does the Beraisa learn from the word "O" in Tazri'a ("be'Veged Tzemer O be'Veged Pishtim")?

(d) What does Abaye extrapolate from there?

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