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Menachos 38

***** Perek ha'Techeiles *****


(a) Our Mishnah discusses the T'cheiles and the Lavan of Tzitzis.
How many threads of the Tzitzis must be dyed Techeiles?

(b) Are T'cheiles and Lavan Me'akev each other?

(c) What are the ramifications of the previous ruling?

(d) Are the shel Yad and the shel Rosh Me'akev each other?

(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Sh'lach- Lecha "al Tzitzis ha'Kanaf"?

(b) What does that mean in practical terms?

(c) What does Rebbi learn from the fact that after "al Tzitzis ha'Kanaf" and "P'sil Techeiles", the Torah writes "u'Re'isem Oso"?

(d) How do the Rabbanan counter that, based on the word "Oso"?

(a) To reconcile our Mishnah with Rebbi, how does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav, based on a Beraisa, establish 'Me'akeves'?

(b) According to the Beraisa, why, when tying the threads, should Lavan precede T'cheiles?

(c) When the Beraisa concludes 've'Im Hikdim T'cheiles le'Lavan Yatza, Ela she'Chisar Mitzvah'.
Why can the Tana not mean that he is lacking the Mitzvah of Lavan?

(d) So how does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav explain it?

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(a) We just explained how Lavan is not Me'akev Techeiles, even according to Rebbi.
How does Rami bar Chama explain 'ha'Techeiles Einah Me'akeves es ha'Lavan'?

(b) This is also how Levi and Shmuel explained the Sugya, with Rami bar Chama explaining 'ha'Techeiles Einah Me'akeves es ha'Lavan'.
What did Levi initially tell Aryoch not to do until he had explained our Mishnah to him?
Who was Aryoch?

(c) Rava objected to Rami bar Chama's explanation.
What did he mean when he said 'Midi Tziv'a ka'Garim'?

(d) So how does he interpret 'ha'Techeiles Einah Me'akeves es ha'Lavan, ve'ha'Lavan Eino Me'akev es ha'Techeiles' in our Mishnah, even according to Rebbi?

(a) The current explanation is based on the ruling of B'nei Rebbi Chiya, which we discussed in the previous Perek (regarding Gardumei Techeiles and Gardumei Eizov).
What did bar Hamduri quoting Shmuel, give as the Shi'ur of Gardumei Techeiles?

(b) What are the two possible interpretations of 'K'dei le'Anvan'?

(c) Which is the correct one?

(a) What She'eilah did Rav Ashi ask about a case where the threads are too thick to tie into a knot?

(b) How did Rav Acha b'rei de'Rava resolve Rav Ashi's She'eilah?

7) The Tana who argues with Rebbi is Rebbi Yitzchak ... in the name of Rebbi Yochanan ben Nuri.
What does he say about someone who has no Techeiles?


(a) Bearing in mind that Rava disagrees with the previous presumption that Gardumei Techeiles must require a Shi'ur (see Tosfos DH 'K'dei Le'anvan'), what is his basis for saying that each Chulya (group of rings) requires a knot?

(b) How do we refute Rava's proof?

(a) What do we learn from the juxtaposition (Semuchin) of the Pesukim in Ki Seitzei "Lo Silbash Sha'atnez" and "Gedilim Ta'aseh Lach"?

(b) How does Rabah (or Rava) extrapolate from there that the top knot of the Tzitzis must be d'Oraysa?

(c) Since it really makes no difference where one ties the knot, why does Rabah refer specifically to 'Kesher Elyon'?

(d) Why do we need a proof that 'Kesher Elyon d'Oraysa'? Without it, the G'dil will not hold anyway?

10) Some take Kesher Elyon to mean specifically the knot next to the garment. Why does the Rabah refer specifically to that knot and not the knot at the end of the Tzitzis?

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