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Menachos 86

MENACHOS 86 - has been dedicated to the memory of Max (Meir Menachem ben Shlomo ha'Levi) Turkel, by his children Eddie and Lawrence, and his wife Jean Turkel/Rafalowicz. Max was a warm and loving husband and father, and he is sorely missed by his family.


(a) What reason does the Beraisa give for invalidating Anpiknun oil even Bedieved?

(b) How does Rav Yosef reconcile this with our Mishnah, which declares it Kasher Bedieved?

(c) In fact, Rebbi Chiya and Rebbi Shimon b'Rebbi preached what they practiced.
What did each one used to do with his Anpiknun oil?

(d) What sign do we have by which to remember who says what?

(a) The Pasuk in Megilas Esther writes "Shishah Chodashim be'Shemen ha'Mor", which Rav Huna bar Chiya translates as 'Satachsa' (balsam oil).
How does Rebbi Yirmiyah bar Aba translate it?

(b) What is Shemen Anpiknun used for?

(c) What does Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa say about olive oil that is pickled, well cooked, soaked, that is produced from dregs or that smells putrid?

(d) What does Rabah ask in connection with someone who declared one of these Hekdesh?

(a) What does our Mishnah mean when it talks about three kinds of olives?

(b) How many grades of oil does each one produce?

(c) Describing the first kind of olives, the Tana writes 'Megargeran be'Rosh ha'Zayis'.
What does this mean?

(a) The first oil is produced by pounding the oil.
What does one do next, according to the Tana Kama?

(b) What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(c) To produce the second oil, one then places a beam on the olives, according to the Tana Kama.
What does Rebbi Yehudah say? Why is that?

(d) How does one produce the third oil?

(a) The second harvest of olives is placed on the roof.
Why is that? What is the difference between the first and the second harvests?

(b) What else might 'be'Rosh Gago' mean?

(c) What is the definition of the third olive harvest? How is it treated?

(d) What do they then do with the olives?

(a) How does one produce the three grades of oil from the second and third harvests of olives?

(b) Which of the above oils are Kasher for the Menorah?

(c) What are the other grades of oil used for?

(d) We ask whether the correct wording in our Mishnah ought to be 'Megargero' or 'Megalgelo'.
What does 'Megalgelo' mean?

(a) And we resolve the She'eilah from a Beraisa.
What does the Beraisa say? Which word does the Tana use?

(b) With regard to the first olive harvest, the Beraisa states 'Shemen Zayis, Maziso'.
What does 'Maziso' mean?

(c) The Tana Kama requires the third olives to be ground (after they are taken out of the vat).
What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(d) How do we then reconcile the Tana of our Mishnah, who requires the olives to be beaten (like Rebbi Yehudah in the Beraisa), and the beaten olives to be placed on the floor of the basket (like the Rabbanan)?

(a) If, as our Mishnah maintains, the Sheini she'be'Rishon and the Rishon she'be'Sheini are equal, then why is the former not eligible for the Menorah?

(b) Which two oils does the Tana place on a par with the Shelishi she'be'Rishon?

(c) How does the Tana describe the Rishon she'be'Rishon on the one hand, and the Shelishi she'bi'Shelishi on the other?

(d) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Tetzaveh " ... Zach Kasis la'Ma'or"?

(e) What would we otherwise have thought?

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(a) Seeing as Sheini she'be'Rishon is Pasul for the Menorah, what does the Tana mean when he says 'Sheini she'be'Rishon ve'Rishon she'be'Sheini Shavin'? In which regard are they equal?

(b) Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa defines "Kasis" as 'beaten' (pounded).
How does the Beraisa define "Zach"?

(c) Why do we think that 'Kasis' might be Pasul for Menachos?

(d) If, as the Beraisa points out, the Torah validates "Kasis" for the Menachos, when it writes "ve'Isaron So'les Balul ba'Shmen Kasis ... ", why does the Torah then write "Kasis la'Ma'or"?

(a) And the reason that the Torah permits oil that is neither Zach nor Kasis for the Menachos is because of Chisachon.
How does Rebbi Elazar explain this mean?

(b) How will we explain it in view of 'Kasis li'Menachos'

(c) How does Rebbi Shmul bar Nachmini explain the Pasuk in Be'ha'aloscha "Ve'yikchu *Eilecha* Shemen Zayis Zach"?

(a) What does Rebbi Zerika Amar Rebbi Elazar comment on 'Shulchan be'Tzafon, u'Menorah be'Darom'?

(b) How did the fact that Hashem does not need the light of the Menorah affect th shape of the windows in the Beis-Hamikdash?

(c) How does Rava explain the phenomenon of the Ner Ma'aravi (a proof that the Shechinah rests in Yisrael)? Which lamp are we referring to?

(d) What irrefutable proof do we bring from another phenomenon that occurred throughout the forty years in the desert that the Hashem does not need our light?

(a) Our Mishnah finally discusses the wine.
If Keduchim and Atulin were 'Alfa le'Shemen', what does the Tana say about Beis Rimah and Beis Lavan in the mountains and K'far Signa in the valley?

(b) This does not however, disqualify wine from other areas, as w explained with regard to the flour.
What does the Tana say about wine from Beis ha'Zevalim, Beis ha'Shalachim or that grew among vegetables?

(c) Lechatchilah, one should not use 'ha'Listavan'.
What is 'Listavan'?

(d) Rebbi forbids using old wine.
What do the Chachamim say?

(a) What does the Tana say about wine that is naturally sweet, that is smoked or cooked?

(b) What else might sweet wine refer to?

(c) 'Ein Mevi'in min ha'Daliyos ... '.
Why should one avoid using grapes that have grown on vine-arbors?

(d) One only uses wine from 'Keramim ha'Avudin'.
What are Keramim ha'Avudin'?

(a) Why should one not ...
  1. ... store (and pour) the wine for the Menachos in large barrels?
  2. ... fill the wine to the top of the barrel?
  3. ... use the wine that is at the top of the barrel?
  4. ... use the wine that is at the bottom of the barrel?
(b) How did they know when the wine in the barrel had reached the level of the dregs?

(c) Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah disagrees with the Tana Kama.
What does he learn from the Pasuk in Pinchas "Temimim Yih'yu Lachem u'Minchasam ... ve'Niskeihem"?

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