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Menachos 82


(a) What does Rebbi Ami say about someone who designates Ma'aser-Sheini money to purchase Shelamim?

(b) Why is that?

(c) But did we not just learn that one is permitted to buy a Shelamim with Ma'aser-Sheini money?

(a) What is the status of S'tam ...
  1. ... Chayos ...
  2. ... Beheimos that one purchases with Ma'aser-Sheini money?
(b) And what happens to their skins?

(c) What does the Mishnah in Ma'aser-Sheini say about the skins in a case where one purchased a Chayah as a Shelamim or a Beheimah to eat as Chulin?

(a) How do we initially interpret the Din of the skin? Why is this a Kashya on Rebbi Ami?

(b) We answer the Kashya by citing Rav.
How did Rav explain the Mishnah's ruling 'Lo Yeitzei ha'Or le'Chulin'?

(c) Rabah explains that this is because it is as if he had purchased an ox specifically for plowing.
What does he mean by that?

(a) Rebbi Yochanan disagrees with Rebbi Ami. According to him, if someone designates Ma'aser-Sheini money to purchase Shelamim, the money adopts the sanctity of Shelamim.
What does Rebbi Elazar say?

(b) We establish their Machlokes according to Rebbi Meir, who holds 'Ma'aser Mamon Gavohah.
What does Rebbi Yehudah hold? What are the ramifications of their Machlokes?

(c) How will that explain why according to him, even Rebbi Elazar will agree that the money acquires the Kedushah of Shelamim?

(d) If Rebbi Yochanan holds like Rebbi Meir, why does the Ma'aser money adopt the Kedushah of Shelamim?

(a) What does the Beraisa say about someone who redeems Ma'aser money that he designated as a Shelamim?

(b) On whom does this Beraisa now pose a Kashya?

(c) How will he establish the Beraisa?

(a) What is the problem with the Pasuk "Ve'zavachta Pesach la'Hashem Elokecha Tzon u'Vakar"?

(b) What does our Mishnah therefore learn from there?

(c) And what does the Tana mean when he says 'Davar she'be'Chovah'? Which category of Shelamim or Todah for example, is one permitted to purchase from Ma'aser-Sheini money?

(d) What is the exception to this latter ruling?

(a) Rebbi Eliezer, in a Beraisa, cites the source for the above Din of Pesach as Pesach Mitzrayim.
How does he know that Pesach Mitzrayim was brought from Chulin?

(b) What objection did Rebbi Akiva raise to this?

(c) What was Rebbi Eliezer's response to that?

(a) How did Rebbi Akiva further query Rebbi Eliezer, based on the fact that there was no Mizbe'ach in Mitzrayim?

(b) What did Rebbi Eliezer reply, based on the Pasuk in Bo (in connection with the Pesach Doros) "Va'avadta es ha'Avodah ha'Zos *ba'Chodesh ha'Zeh*?

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(a) From the fact that Rebbi Akiva asked the Pircha on Rebbi Eliezer from 'Matan Damim ve'Eimurim', it appears that he retracted from the S'vara of 'Ein Danin Efshar mi'she'I Efshar'.
What Pircha can we ask on him from Pesach Midbar?

(b) How do we therefore establish Rebbi Akiva? If he did not retract from his initial S'vara, why did he ask the second Pircha?

(c) By the same token, why did Rebbi Eliezer need to come on to the Pasuk "Va'avadta"? Why did he not answer Rebbi Akiva from Pesach Midbar (as we just explained)?

(a) What reason does Rav Sheishes give to explain why Rebbi Akiva did not still ask on the Hekesh 've'Chi Danin Efshar mi'she'I Efshar'?

(b) Why can one ask a Pircha on a 'Kal va'Chomer', but not on a 'Hekesh' or 'Gezeirah-Shavah'?

(a) In 'Tarbitza', they queried how one can possibly learn the Din of 'Ba min ha'Chulin' by Todah from Pesach Doros.
What does 'Tarbitza' mean?

(b) What is the problem with learning Todah from Pesach Doros with a Hekesh?

(c) What do we answer? What makes this case different than a regular case of 'Hekesh min ha'Hekesh'?

(a) We cite Shmuel in the name of Rebbi Eliezer, who quotes the Pasuk in Tzav "Zos ha'Torah, la'Olah, ve'la'Minchah, ve'la'Chatas ve'le'Asham ve'la'Milu'im u'le'Zevach ha'Shelamim".
Why do cite Shmuel? What are we searching for?

(b) From "Olah", Rebbi Eliezer learns that all Korbanos require a K'li, just like Olah. We suggest that perhaps this refers to bowls for Kabalas ha'Dam. Where does the Torah mentions bowls with reference to Olos?

(c) On what grounds do we refute this suggestion?

(d) Then what *is* the 'K'li' of Rebbi Eliezer referring to? Where does the Torah mention a Shechitah knife by Olah?

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