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Menachos 76

MENACHOS 76 - sponsored towards the Zechus of a Refu'ah Shelemah for Reb Aharon David ben Mirel.


(a) Our Mishnah prescribes Shifos and Be'itos for all Menachos.
What are 'Shifos' and 'Be'itos'?

(b) If every Minchah requires three hundred Shifos, how many Be'itos does it need?

(c) According to the Tana Kama, there were performed with the wheat.
What was the reason for this?

(d) What does Rebbi Yossi say? What is then the reason for doing so?

(a) According to Rebbi Yehudah, all Menachos consist of ten loaves except for two, one of which is the Chavitei Kohen Gadol.
What is the other?

(b) How many loaves do they comprise?

(c) Rebbi Meir disagrees.
In his opinion, how many loaves do all but two of the Menachos comprise?

(d) The two exceptions are the Chalos Todah and those of the Shalmei Nazir.
How many loaves do they each consist of?

(a) The Beraisa describes how they arranged the three hundred Shifos and five hundred Be'itos.
How did they do it?

(b) What She'eilah did Rebbi Yirmiyah ask in connection with moving the hand backwards and forwards? What is the outcome of the She'eilah?

(c) What She'eilah do we ask in connection with Rebbi Yossi in our Mishnah, when he says 'be'Batzek'?

(d) We resolve the She'eilah from a Beraisa.
What does the Beraisa say?

(a) According to Rebbi Yehudah, all Menachos require ten loaves, except for the Lechem ha'Panim and the Chavitei Kohen Gadol, which both require twelve. What makes the Lachmei Todah in the first group and the Lechem ha'Panim in the second, special? What do they have in common?

(b) What does Rebbi Yehudah learn from the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' of "Chukah" (in Emor) "Chukah" (in Tzav)?

(c) From where does he learn that all the other Menachos comprise ten loaves?

(d) We prefer to learn all the Menachos from the Lachmei Todah, rather than from the Lechem ha'Panim, due to the six things that they have in common. As opposed to the Lechem ha'Panim, they are both Korbenos Yachid, can be donated and require Shemen. The fourth common specification is 'Nifsal'.
What does that mean?

(a) Finally, which two things does the Lechem ha'Panim override, which they do not?

(b) On the other hand, the Menachos share with the Lechem ha'Panim the fact that they require Levonah and are brought entirely as Matzos. In addition, they are both 'Hekdesh' and 'Etzem'.
What do these mean?

(c) So why do we ultimately learn the Menachos from the former, and not from the latter?

(d) We ask however, why we should not learn Menachos from the Chavitei Kohen Gadol. What might be the problem with that? What would we have to hold to be able to make such a D'rashah?

(a) We answer this by listing six things that the Menachos and the Lachmei Todah have in common (which the Chavitei Kohen Gadol do not). Like with the Lechem ha'Panim, they come as a Nedavah and do not override Shabbos and Tum'ah. In addition, they are described as 'Hedyot, Chatza'in and Pigul'. What do 'Chatza'in and 'Pigul' mean?

(b) We counter that with eight things that the Menachos have in common with the Chavitei Kohen Gadol (which the Lachmei Todah do not).
What role does 'Isaron, K'li, Hekdesh and Levonah' play in this Limud?

(c) The Chavitei Kohen Gadol (like the Lechem ha'Panim), also share with the Minchah the fact that both are 'Matzah' and 'Etzem'.
What besides Hagashah, do they also require that the Lachmei Todah do not?

(d) Why, despite the fact that Chavitei Kohen Gadol has more in common with the Menachos than the Lachmei Todah, does Rebbi Yehudah still learn them from the latter? Which single determining characteristic connects them to them more than to the Chavitei Kohen Gadol?

(a) According to Rebbi Meir in our Mishnah, all the Menachos require twelve loaves.
What is his source for this?

(b) In which point does he argue with Rebbi Yehudah? In his opinion, which single factor connects the Menachos to either of the above more than to the Lachmei Todah (in spite of the S'vara of 'Hedyot me'Hedyot')?

(c) Rebbi Meir agrees that the Lachmei Todah consist of ten loaves, since the Torah specifically says so.
What does he then learn from the Pasuk in Tzav "al Zevach Todas *Shelamav*"?

(a) Rav Tuvi bar Kisna Amar Shmuel validates four Lachmei Todah.
What is the significance of four loaves?

(b) How does he reconcile this with the Pasuk in Tzav, which prescribes forty?

(c) Which problem still remains concerning the Mitzvah of separating Terumah from the loaves? Why can one not simply break a bit off one of the loaves?

(d) How does Rav Tuvi bar Kisna then solve it?

(a) We query Shmuel however, from a Beraisa.
What does the Beraisa say about the Lechem ha'Panim, the Chavitei Kohen Gadol and the Lachmei Todah and Nezirus? What do they all have in common?

(b) We answer by establishing Shmuel like another Tana.
Which two items does the Tana Kama there include in that list?

(c) What do Yesh Omrim say?

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(a) What lenient ruling does Rav Huna issue regarding a Minchas Ma'afeh Tanur?

(b) How does he derive it from the word "Matzos" written there?

(c) What do we ask on this from Rav Tuvi bar Masna Amar Shmuel? What does the Torah write there?

(d) What do we answer?

(a) Our Mishnah contrasts the Omer, the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim. Both the Omer and Sh'tei ha'Lechem comprise three Sa'ah (One Eifah) of flour.
The Omer ends up as one Isaron (a tenth of an Eifah). How did they achieve this?

(b) How much does the Sh'tei ha'Lechem end up as?

(c) How about the Lechem ha'Panim? How many Esronim does it end up as, out of how many Sa'ah?

(d) What is then the volume of each Chalah?

(a) If three Sa'ah can produce two Esronin for the Sh'tei ha'Lechem, why does the Omer require the same three Sa'ah to produce only one Isaron?

(b) And if three Sa'ah of wheat is needed to produce two Esronim for the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and one for the Omer, why will only one Sa'ah suffice to produce one Isaron for the Lechem ha'Panim?

(c) What does the Beraisa mean when it speaks about adding or subtracting to or from the Midah of ...

  1. ... Esronim?
  2. ... Sa'in?
(d) What distinction does the Tana draw between the two?
(a) The Tana Kama of our Mishnah requires the Omer to be sifted thirteen times.
How many sieves were used to sift ...
  1. ... the Sh'tei ha'Lechem?
  2. ... the Lechem ha'Panim?
(b) What is the source for all this?

(c) Rebbi Shimon disagrees.
What does he learn from the Pasuk in Emor "Ve'lakachta So'les Ve'Afisa Osah"?

(a) According to the Tana Kama of the Beraisa, there were two sieves in the Beis-Hamikdash.
What kind of sieves were they?

(b) What procedure did the Kohen then follow? What did he achieve by sifting the flour first in the fine sieve, and then in the thick one?

(c) Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar disagrees.
What does he say?

(d) How did the Kohen proceed according to him?

(a) The Torah writes in Emor "Ve'lakachta So'les Ve'afisa Osah".
What does the Beraisa learn from ...
  1. ... " ... So'les Ve'afisa Osah"?
  2. ... "Ve'lakachta"?
  3. ... "Osah"?
(b) The Tana gives the reason for this as 'Mipnei ha'Chisachon'.
What does he mean by that?

(c) How does that explain the Torah's distinction between the Lechem ha'Panim and other Menachos?

(d) From which Pasuk in Sh'lach-Lecha (in connection with producing water from the rock) does Rebbi Elazar prove Hashem's concern for Yisrael's property.

***** Hadran Alach 'Eilu Menachos Nikmatzos' *****

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