REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Zevachim 80
ZEVACHIM 80 (30 Av) - This daf has been dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Esther
Chaya Rayzel (Friedman) bas Gershon Eliezer, upon her Yahrzeit and Yom
Kevurah, by her daughter and son-in-law, Jeri and Eli Turkel. Esther
Friedman was a woman of valor who was devoted to her family and gave of
herself unstintingly, inspiring all those around her.
Rebbi Elazar again restricts Rebbi Eliezer's ruling ('Im Kareiv Kos Achas
... ') to bringing two cups at a time, and Rebbi Ya'akov establishes the
Seifa 'Afilu Karvu Kulan Chutz me'Echad' to mean 'Zug Echad'. Having taught
us the Machlokes between Rebbi Eliezer and the Chachamim with regard to ...
- ... 'Eivarim', why does the Tana find it necessary to repeat it with regard to 'Kosos'?
- ... 'Kosos', why does the Tana find it necessary to repeat it with regard to 'Eivarim'?
(a) The Mishnah in Parah discusses a case where water falls into a jar
containing Mei Chatas. Rebbi Eliezer holds 'Yazeh Sh'tei Haza'os'.
does he mean by that?
(b) What do the Chachamim say?
(c) Assuming that the latter hold 'Yesh Bilah' (as we learned in our
Mishnah), what will they hold with regard to ...
- ... the Haza'ah having a Shiur?
- ... the two Haza'os combining?
(a) Why do we initially assume that Rebbi Eliezer holds 'Yesh Bilah'?
(b) How do we know that he holds 'Haza'ah Tzerichah Shiur'?
(c) In which point does he then argue with the Chachamim?
(d) What problem nevertheless remains?
(a) Resh Lakish declares 'Hacha be'Mai Askinan, she'Nis'arvu Achas'.
does he mean by that? How does it answer the Kashya?
(b) Rava maintains that Rebbi Eliezer holds 'Haza'ah Ein Tzerichah Shi'ur'.
Then on what grounds does he require two Haza'aos?
(a) According to Rav Ashi, Rebbi Eliezer holds 'Ein Bilah'.
What does he
hold with regard to 'Haza'ah Tzerichah Shiur'?
(b) On what grounds does he then argue with Rava?
(c) Why does he not emulate Resh Lakish, and establish the case
'she'Nis'arvu Achas be'Achas'?
(d) So how do we know, according to Rav Ashi, that the Tamei was actually
sprinkled with the Mei Chatas?
(a) Rebbi in a Beraisa states that according to Rebbi Eliezer, 'Haza'ah
Answers to questions
To which ruling of Rebbi Eliezer is he referring?
(b) What is the basis of Rebbi's statement?
(c) What does Rebbi mean when he says 'Haza'ah Mechtzah Kasher, u'Mechtzah
(d) In what way does this Beraisa pose a Kashya on Resh Lakish?
(a) In another Beraisa, in connection with 'Nitnin Lema'alah she'Nis'arvu
be'Nitnin Lematah' (e.g. the blood of a Chatas with the blood of an Olah),
Rebbi Eliezer says 'Yiten Lema'alah, ve'Ro'in ... ve'ha'Tachtonim Alu Lo'
(the excerpts from the Beraisa, which we are about to quote, section by
section, runs parallel with our Mishnah. See Tosfos DH 've'Od').
the last statement mean?
(b) What does this Beraisa prove?
(c) On whom does it pose a Kashya?
(d) To refute this Kashya, we establish the Beraisa when the majority of the
blood was from the Chatas.
How much blood does he then place above the
(a) What is now the problem with the Seifa of the Beraisa 've'ha'Tachtonim
(b) What do we mean when we answer 'le'Shem Shirayim'?
(c) The Beraisa continues 'Nasan le'Matah ve'Lo Nimlach (without asking
advice), Rebbi Eliezer Omer Yachzor ve'Yiten Lema'alah ... '.
the Kohen have been told to do, had he asked?
(d) The Rabbanan disagree with Rebbi Eliezer. According to them, the
remainder of the blood must be poured into the Amah.
Why is that? What is
the basis of their Machlokes?
(a) What Kashya does this Beraisa pose on Rav Ashi?
(b) How do we answer it?
(c) How will we then explain the Seifa 've'ha'Tachtonim Alu Lo'?
(a) The Beraisa continues 'Nasnan Lema'alah ... Eilu va'Eilu Modim
she'Yachzor Veyiten Lematah'.
On what grounds do the Rabbanan (who rule
in the previous case 'Yishafech le'Amah') agree with Rebbi Eliezer here?
(b) Here too, according to Rav Ashi, we establish the case where the
majority of the blood was from the Chatas ... .
Which Korban is Kasher,
according to ...
(c) How do we then explain the Seifa 'Eilu va'Eilu Alu Lo'?
- ... Rebbi Eliezer?
- ... the Rabbanan?
(a) We learned in our Mishnah 'ha'Nitnin be'Matanah Achas she'Nis'arvu
be'Matanah Achas, Yinasnu be'Matanah Achas ... Matan Arba be'Matan Arba,
Yinasnu be'Matan Arba'.
Answers to questions
How do we know that Rebbi Eliezer agrees with
(b) How will Rav Ashi, who holds 'Ein Bilah' (according to Rebbi Eliezer)
(c) We ask the same Kashya on Rav Ashi from the Seifa 'Matan Arba be'Matan
Achas, Rebbi Eliezer Omer Yinasnu be'Matan Arba'. We suggest that maybe here
too, the Mishnah speaks 'be'Nis'arev be'Achas'.
- ... the Reisha?
- ... the Seifa?
What exactly, do we mean
(d) On what grounds do we reject that suggestion?