POINT BY POINT SUMMARY
by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous dafYoma 34
YOMA 32-35 - anonymously sponsored towards a REFU'AH SHELEMAH to Shmuel
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1) JUSTIFYING ABAYE'S ORDER OF THE AVODAH (cont'd)
(a) That the Minchah precedes the Chavitin is based on the Pasuk
where Olah and Minchah are in uninterrupted succession.
2) KETORES BETWEEN THE DAM TAMID AND ITS EIVARIM
(b) That the Chavitin precede the Nesachim of wine is owing to
the fact that Chavitin also are considered a Minchah.
(c) That the Nesachim precede the Musafin is owing to the
uninterrupted proximity of Zevach and Nesachin.
(d) The Musafin precede the Bazichin.
1. Question: But the Beraisa teaches the opposite order?
2. Answer: It is a Machlokes Tanaim.
3. Abaye defends his order because of the repetition of
Bayom (implying delay) by the Bazichin.
4. Question: What is the rationale for the opposite order?
5. Answer: Gezeirah Shavah from Chavitin (just as it
precedes the Musafin, so, too...).
6. Question: Then learn from there that the Bazichin
should precede the Nesachim, as well!?
7. Answer: That delay is the role of Bayom.
(a) Question: This statement of the Mishnah does not concur with
either Rabanan or Aba Shaul.
3) KETORES BEIN HA'ARBAYIM
1. The Rabanan would have the Mishnah read "between the
Dam and the Neiros."
(b) Answer: It is the Rabanan and the Mishnah is not being
precise regarding order.
2. Aba Shaul would have the Mishnah read "between the
Neiros and the Eivarim."
(a) Question: What is the source for placing the Ketores between
the Eivarim and the Nesachim?
4) NESACHIM FOR THE TAMID OF SHACHARIS
(b) Answer: The Pasuk compares the Bein Ha'Arbayim to Shacharis,
where the Ketores precedes the Nesachim.
(c) Question: If this comparison is made, then the Ketores Bein
Ha'Arbayim should precede its Eivarim!?
(d) Answer: The comparison is made by Minchah, not Eivarim.
(a) (Tana Kama of the Beraisa): The Tamid of Shacharis should be
derived from the later Tamid and also have Nesachim!?
(b) (Rebbi): Let the Nesachim of Arvis be derived from
5) WARMING THE WATER FOR THE SENSITIVE KOHEN
(c) Question: While the Rabanan are understandable (the Pasuk of
Nesachim is speaking by the later Tamid), what is the
rationale of R. Yehudah?
(d) Answer: The word Echad by Nesachim points us to the Tamid of
(e) Question: How will Rabanan interpret the pointer of Echad?
(f) Answer: It means the finest of his flock.
(g) Question: How will Rebbi learn this requirement?
(h) Answer: From the explicit Pasuk, Mivchar Nidreichem.
(i) Question: Why, according to Rabanan, are there two Pesukim?
(j) Answer: One speaks of Chovos and one of Nedavos and both are
(a) The Beraisa teaches that thick pieces of metal were warmed
before Yom Kipur for this purpose.
(b) Question: But that constitutes Metzaref on the metal?
(c) Answer (R. Bibi): They did not reach the heat of Tziruf.
(d) Answer (Abaye): It is a Davar Sh'Ein Miskaven and is Mutar.
(e) Question: But we see in the Beraisa regarding removing a
Baheres (through performing a Bris Milah) that Abaye holds
that a Davar Sh'Ein Miskaven is Asur!?
(f) Answer: That holds in general, but here, since the
prohibition is d'Rabanan, the Chachamim permitted it.