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Ta'anis 30

TA'ANIS 27, 28, 29, 30 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi publications for these Dafim for the benefit of Klal Yisrael


(a) We learned in our Mishnah that on Erev Tish'ah be'Av, one is not permitted to eat meat or wine, or to eat two cooked dishes. Rav Yehudah requires two conditions to be met for the prohibition to be effective.
What are they?

(b) In a Beraisa, Raban Shimon ben Gamliel requires a change from the norm. Rebbi Yehudah gives three examples of this: one of them, that one eats one cooked dish instead of two.
What are the other two?

(c) In another Beraisa, Rebbi Meir learns like the Tana of our Mishnah, and the Chachamim require that one changes from two cooked dishes, and eats less meat and drinks less wine than usual.
What leniency does Raban Shimon ben Gamliel present in that Beraisa?

(a) In yet another Beraisa, the Tana Kama forbids eating meat, drinking wine and bathing, whenever it is because of Tish'ah be'Av.
What does he mean by 'whenever it is because of Tish'ah be'Av'?

(b) What will be the Din by a meal which is not because of Tish'ah be'Av?

What is meant by 'a meal which is not because of Tish'ah be'Av'?

(c) What does Rebbi Yishmael b'Rebbi Yossi say in the name of his father?

(a) Whatever is forbidden to an Aveil, says the Beraisa, is also forbidden on Tish'ah be'Av.
What else, besides the five Inuyim (afflictions) does this incorporate?

(b) What are the five Inuyim?

(a) Why is Torah-study forbidden?

(b) According to the Tana Kama ...

  1. ... what is one permitted to learn besides the sad things, such as Kinos, Seifer Iyov, and the sad parts of Yirmiyah?
  2. ... why are children permitted to learn?
(c) With which two statements of the Tana Kama does Rebbi Yehudah disagree?
(a) Salted mean and wine from the vat are not included in the prohibition. For how long ...
  1. ... must the meat be salted for it to be permitted? How do we learn this from Shelamim?
  2. ... is it called wine from the vat?
(b) Why is wine from the vat also not forbidden if it left uncovered, because snakes may have drunk from it (and left their venom inside)?

(c) What did Rebbi Yehudah used to do on Erev Tish'ah be'Av when the time arrived to eat the Se'udah ha'Mafsekes?

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(a) We have learned in Pesachim that, whether one may or may not work on Tish'ah be'Av, depends on the local Minhag.
What about Talmidei-Chachamim?

(b) What does Raban Shimon ben Gamliel say?

(c) In which other regard does Raban Shimon ben Gamliel encourage everyone to adopt the custom of Talmidei-Chachamim?

(d) What do/es ...

1. ... Raban Shimon ben Gamliel say about someone who eats and drinks on Tish'ah be'Av?
2. ... Rebbi Akiva say about someone who works on Tish'ah be'Av (in a place where work is forbidden)?
3. ... the Chachamim say about someone who ...
... works on Tish'ah be'Av and fails to mourn on it?
4. ... does mourn for Yerushalayim?
7) About whom does the Pasuk in Yechezkel write "u'Sehi Avonosam al Atzmosam"?


(a) The Chachamim asked Rebbi Yehudah (who obligated overturning one's bed on Tish'ah be'Av) what pregnant and feeding women should do.
What did he answer them?

(b) According to the Beraisa, the Chachamim actually agree with Rebbi Yehudah with regard to beds which are used for sleeping.
Then in which case do they argue with him?

(c) Rava disregards the Beraisa in his final ruling.
How does he rule?

The six reasons for Chamishah-Asar be'Av:


(a) Yom Kipur is the happiest of days because it is a day of forgiveness (the catalyst being the day when Moshe descended from Har Sinai with the second Luchos. Clearly, there is nothing quite as wonderful as being re-united with Hashem).
Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel gives the reason for the happiness on Chamishah-Asar be'Av as 'the day when the tribes were permitted to intermarry' (because the tribes of Yisrael were re-united with each other). What is he referring to? From whom does he learn it?

(b) Rav Nachman Amar Rav Yosef gives a similar reason, but with regard to the tribe of Binyamin.
What does he learn from the Pasuk in Shoftim "Ish Yisrael Nishba ba'Mitzpeh Leimor 'Ish *Mimenu* Lo Yitein es Be'no' "?

(c) Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan attributes the Yom-Tov to the 'dead of the desert'.
What does he mean? What happened there annually?

(d) How come that they only celebrated on Chamishah-Asar be'Av, and not on Tish'ah be'Av, the day that they actually stopped dying?

(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Devarim "va'Yehi Ki Tamu Anshei Kol Anshei ha'Milchamah la'Mus, *va'Yedaber Hashem Elai Leimor"?

(b) According to Ula, Chamishah-Asar be'Av is connected with Hoshei'a ben Eilah, who nullified the border guards.
Which border guards?

(c) Did that rate him as one of the rare righteous kings of Yisrael (as opposed to Yehudah)?

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