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Ta'anis 29

TA'ANIS 27, 28, 29, 30 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi publications for these Dafim for the benefit of Klal Yisrael


(a) Given that Yisrael left Har Sinai on the twentieth of Sivan of the second year, on which three days did they grumble about the journey?

(b) They ate the quails for a month.
From which date until which date was that?

(c) The following day, Miriam spoke Lashon ha'Ra about Moshe, and was sent out of the camp for seven days, following which Moshe sent the spies. On which date did ...

  1. ... Miriam speak Lashon ha'Ra?
  2. ... Did Moshe sent the spies?
(d) If the spies left on the twenty-ninth of Sivan and returned on the eve of Tish'ah be'Av, that would make a total of thirty-nine days (two days of Sivan, twenty-nine of Tamuz - which is generally a short month - and eight in Av), not forty, as the Torah specifically writes.
What is the significance of the Pasuk in Eichah "Kara Alai Mo'ed" in this regard?
2) What was Hashem's response to their weeping that night?


(a) In which year of Nevuchadnetzar's reign did Nevuzradan the chief butcher destroy the Beis-Hamikdash?

(b) How do we reconcile the Pasuk in Melachim which gives the date of the first Churban as having taken place on the *seventh* of Av, with the Pasuk in Yirmiyah, which gives it as the *tenth*?

(c) Rebbi Yochanan declared that, had he had a say in the matter, he would have fixed the day of mourning on the *tenth* (when most of the conflagration occurred), and not on the *ninth*.
Why did Chazal then fix it on the *ninth*?

(d) From where do we know that the *second* Beis-Hamikdash was also destroyed on the ninth of Av?

(a) On which day of the week and on which year of the cycle of Sh'mitah did the Churban occur?

(b) It took place during the Mishmar of Yehoyariv, whilst the Levi'im were singing the Shir.
How come that they were singing the Shir for Wednesday, and not that of Sunday?

(c) At which point in the Shir did the Churban occur?

(d) From where do we know that Beitar was also destroyed on Tish'ah-be'Av (fifty-two years after the second Churban)?

(a) The fifth thing that took place on Tish'ah-be'Av was Turnusrufus' turning of Yerushalayim into a plowed field.
What other terrible decree was issued on the same day?

(b) What did the Roman 'Master' mean when he announced in the Beis-Hamedrash that the man with the long nose was wanted?

(c) When he visited Raban Gamliel in hiding, Raban Gamliel swore to him that he would 'bring him to Olam ha'Ba' if he saved him from death.
What did he subsequently do? How did that save Raban Gamliel from death?

(d) What reward did that 'Master' receive?

(a) What did the groups of young Kohanim do with the keys of the Heichal when they saw that the Churban was imminent? Why did they do that?

(b) What happened to ...

  1. ... the keys?
  2. ... the young Kohanim?
(c) Yeshayah lamented their death.
What did Hashem do?
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(a) What does Rav Yehudah the son of Shmuel bar Shilas quote Rav as saying with regard to the advent of Adar?

(b) What are the side ramifications of both halves of this Halachah?

(c) What did he also quote Rav as saying with regard to ...

  1. ... the two tremendous material advantages of living in Bavel (which supplied the exiles with a future during their years of Galus in Bavel).
  2. ... the Pasuk in Toldos, where Yitzchak referred to the smell of Ya'akov (when he entered his tent for the B'rachos) 'like the smell of a field which Hashem has blessed'?
(a) Our Mishnah forbids washing clothes during the week of Tish'ah-be'Av. Rav Nachman restricts this to when one washes the garment because he *intends to wear* it.
How does Rav Sheishes prove that it is forbidden even if he does *not*?

(b) What is Rav Sheishes' reason?

(c) The Beraisa permits washing clothes on Thursday (during the week of Tish'ash be'Av) in honor of Shabbos. Since he is washing it in honor of Shabbos, he is clearly not going to wear it immediately.
How is this a Kashya on Rav Nachman?

(a) To answer the above Kashya (basing ourselves on a statement of Rav Asi Amar Rebbi Yochanan), we establish the Beraisa when he only has one shirt. What does Rav Asi Amar Rebbi Yochanan say about someone who has only one shirt?

(b) Then why does the Tana say that it is in honor of Shabbos? On what day must Tish'ah-be'Av have fallen?

(c) Rebbi Elazar also agrees with Rav Nachman (who permits washing clothes that one does not intend to wear until after Tish'ah-be'Av during the week of Tish'ah-be'Av).
Why can the Halachah nevertheless not be like Rav Nachman?

(d) What does the Beraisa also say about ...

  1. ... ironing (woolen) clothes in Bavel (see Rabeinu Chananel)? What can we infer from there?
  2. ... ironing linen clothes in Bavel?
(a) Rebbi Yochanan is quoted as saying that ironed linen clothes may not be worn during the week of Tishah-be'Av. Shmuel takes this literally, forbidding wearing them until Shabbos, irrespective of when Tish'ah be'Av falls.
What does Rav say?

(b) What distinction does the Beraisa make between before and after Tishah- be'Av, that presents Shmuel with a Kashya?

(c) Shmuel answers that it is a Machlokes Tana'im.
Like which Tana does he hold?

(a) What concession does the Beraisa (from which we asked on Shmuel) make with regard to someone who failed to wash on Thursday (when Tish'ah be'Av fell on Friday) in honor of Shabbos. What can he still do about it?

(b) What did Abaye (or Rav Acha bar Ya'akov) have to say about that?

(c) In the same Beraisa, Rebbi Yossi holds that on whatever day of the week Tish'ah-be'Av falls, one calls up three people to the Torah, the last of which reads the Haftarah.
What does the Tana Kama say?

(a) Are there any restrictions with regard to eating Shalosh Se'udos on Shabbos on which either Erev Tish'ah-be'Av or Tish'ah-be'Av falls?

(b) What does the Tana mean by 'Se'udas Shlomoh *be'Sha'ato*'?

(c) We already quoted the opinion of Raban Shimon ben Gamliel, who forbids the entire week of Tish'ah be'Av (even between Tish'ah be'Av and Shabbos). Rebbi Meir forbids having a haircut and washing clothes from Rosh Chodesh until Tish-ah-be'Av. Rebbi Yehudah is the most stringent of all.
What say he say?

(d) Rebbi Yochanan points out that each of the three Tana'im learns his opinion from the same Pasuk in Hoshei'a "ve'Hishbati Kol Mesosah, Chagah ve'Shabatah".
What is the source from here according to ...

  1. ... Rebbi Meir?
  2. ... Rebbi Yehudah?
  3. ... Raban Shimon ben Gamliel?
13) Rava rules like Raban Shimon ben Gamliel and like Rebbi Meir, both le'Kula. What is the significance of this double ruling? What would we have thought had he ruled ...
  1. ... like Rebbi Meir only?
  2. ... like Raban Shimon ben Gamliel only?
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