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Ta'anis 7

TA'ANIS 6 & 7 - dedicated by Dovid and Zahava Rubner of Petach Tikva l'Iluy Nishmas his late mother, Mrs. Seren Rubner. May Hashem grant all of her offspring with joy, fulfillment, and all that they need!


(a) The Gemara appraises the day of rain in no less than nine different ways: In which way is the day of rain greater than that of the revival of the dead?

(b) Rav Yosef disagrees with Rebbi Avahu, the author of the previous statement.
What did he say (about Mashiv ha'Ru'ach)?

(c) Rav Yehudah compares the day of rain to the day on which Torah was given to Yisrael.
In which way does Rava disagree with him? How does he derive his viewpoint from the Pasuk in ve'Zos ha'Berachah "Ya'arof ka'Matar Likchi"? What does "Likchi" refer to?

(d) How does Rava explain the two seemingly contradictory phrases "Ya'arof ka'Matar Likchi" and "Tizal ka'Tal Imrasi"? When is a Talmid-Chacham compared to rain, and when is he compared to dew?

(a) What does Rebbi Ban'ah learn from the Pasuk ...
  1. ... "Eitz Chayim Hi la'Machazikim Bah" (Mishlei)?
  2. ... "Ya'arof ka'Matar Likchi"? What does 'Arifah' mean?
(b) Why did Rebbi Zeira decline to learn Torah with Rebbi Yirmiyah?

(c) He did however, condescend to say a piece of Agadah. How did he explain the strange Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "Ki ha'Adam Eitz ha'Sadeh" with the seemingly contradictory Pesukim there "Ki Mimenu Sochel, ve'Oso Lo Sichros" and "Oso Sashchis ve'Charata"?

(a) What does Rebbi Chama bar Chanina learn from the Pasuk in Mishlei (bearing in mind that most Pesukim there refer to Torah or Talmidei- Chachamim) "Barzel be'barzel Naga'u"?

(b) How does Rabah bar bar Chanah learn the same thing from Yirmiyah ha'Navi's comparison of Torah to fire?

(c) What does Rebbi Yossi bar Chanina learn from the Pasuk in Yirmiyah ...

  1. ... "Cherev el ha'Badim"?
  2. ... "ve'Noalu"?
(d) And what does he learn from the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "ve'*Noalu*" and "Asher *Noalnu*, va'Asher Chatanu" (Beha'aloscha)?
(a) What does Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak learn from the Pasuk in Mishlei (comparing the words of Torah to wood) "Eitz Chayim Hi"?

(b) What did Rebbi Chanina say that conforms with this idea?

(c) When should one ...

  1. ... bring 'water' to the thirsty Talmid, and when should the thirsty Talmid go to the 'water' himself?
  2. ... teach (the secrets of) Torah to a Talmid, and when should one best keep them to oneself?
(d) Why does Yeshayah compare words of Torah to water (in the Pasuk "Hoi Kol Tzamei Lechu le'Mayim"), according to Rebbi Chanina bar Idi?
(a) In another Pasuk, he compares Torah to wine and milk as well.
How does Rebbi Oshaya explain the Navi's comparison to these three liquids?

(b) Rebbi Yehoshua was not a good-looking man.
How did he respond to the emperor's daughter, who expressed surprise that so much wisdom should exist in such an ugly receptacle?

(c) What did he tell the emperor, when the wine turned sour, and the emperor demanded an explanation as to why he had instructed his daughter to store the wine in gold and silver barrels?

(d) How did Rebbi Yehoshua then explain how it is that there are good- looking people who can learn extremely well? Why is that?

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(a) What other reason do we give for the Navi's comparison of words of Torah to water, wine and milk?

(b) Why does he compare them to those three liquids rather than to oil or honey?

(c) What does Rav Chama b'Rebbi Chanina learn from the Pasuk in Yeshayah which, when in the same Pasuk in which he refers to the creation of heaven and earth, he writes "Ani Hashem Berasi*v*" (in the singular). What does "Berasi*v*" then refer to?

(d) What is it that sprouts and flourishes on the day of rain?

7) What does Rav Tanchum bar Chanilai learn from the Pasuk in Tehilim "Ratzisa Hashem Artzecha (with rain) ... Nasasa Avon Amecha"?


(a) Rav Tanchum B'rei de'Rebbi Chiya Ish K'far Ako learns from a Pasuk in Iyov (which we will quote shortly in a different context) why Hashem withholds rain from the world. Ze'iri from Dihavas learns it from the Pasuk in Eikev "ve'Atzar es ha'Shamayim ... va'Avadtem Meheirah".
What is the reason?

(b) How does Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael explain the Pasuk in Iyov "Tziyah Gam Chom Yigzalu mi'Yemei Sheleg"?

(c) According to Rebbi Shimon ben Pazi, what does the north-wind do when the faces are angry? Why are the faces angry?

(a) What does Rav Hamnuna learn from ...
1. ... the Pasuk in Yirmiyah ..."va'Yimna Revivim, u'Malkosh Lo Hayah Lach, u'Metzach Ishah Zonah Hayah Lach, *Me'anta Hikalem*"?
2. ... "va'Yimna Revivim, u'Malkosh Lo Hayah Lach, *u'Metzach Ishah Zonah Hayah Lach* ... ?
3. ... the fact that the Navi uses the past tense "Hayah Lach" (Rav Nachman)?
(b) Rav Huna adds that one is permitted to hate someone who has Chutzpah. Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak goes even further.
What does *he* say?

(c) How does ...

1. ... Rav Ketina explain the Pasuk in Koheles "ba'Atzaltayim Yimach ha'Mekareh" (bearing in mind that "ha'Mekareh" refers to Hashem)?
2. ... Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael explain the Pasuk in Iyov "ve'Atah Lo Ra'u Or (Torah), Bahir Hu ba'Shechakim ve'Ru'ach Avrah u'Tehartem"?
(a) The sixth reason that there is no rain (Rav Ami learns from a Pasuk in Iyov), is because of the sin of theft. The antidote is written there too. "ve'Yatz'u Aleha be'Mafgi'a".
What dies "be'Mafgi'a" mean?

(b) What is the seventh reason, based on the Pasuk in Koheles "ve'Hu Lo Panim Kilkel"?

(c) What is the antidote, based on the continuation of the Pasuk "ve'Chayalim Yigaber"?

(d) What do we learn from the final words in the Pasuk "ve'Yisron Hachsher Chochmah"?

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