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by R. Nosson Slifkin
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) CHANINA'S MIRACLES
(a) Every day a Divine voice states that the world is
sustained in the merit of Chanina b. Dosa, who suffices
with a Kav of carobs weekly.
2) THE SLEEP OF R. ELAZAR OF PADAS
(b) His wife would heat the oven and put smoke-emitting
substances in it so the neighbors wouldn't realize that
they couldn't afford bread.
1. An inquisitive neighbor went to investigate, and she
went to hide out of shame.
(c) She complained that there was no food, so Chanina told
her to pray.
2. The neighbor saw the oven full of bread, and called
for her to bring a shovel to remove it.
3. She replied that she had gone to get one, and she
indeed had, as she was accustomed to miracles.
1. Hashem gave her the leg of a golden stool, but she
complained after seeing in a dream that all the
Tzadikim had a three-legged stool and theirs had
only two legs.
(d) One Erev Shabbos, Chanina saw his daughter distraught
because she had lit with vinegar instead of oil.
2. After praying, it was removed.
3. The latter miracle was greater, as things are given
but not taken away.
1. He told her that the One Who makes oil burn can just
as easily make vinegar burn.
(e) His goats were accused of causing trouble.
2. It burned through the day and provided light for
1. He said that if that were true, then they should be
eaten by bears, otherwise they should bring bears
impaled on their horns, which is what happened.
(f) Question #1: How did he come to have goats if he was so
2. His neighbor's house had beams that were too short. He
blessed them and they were miraculously extended.
3. Others say that they miraculously had pieces added on.
(g) Question #2: Surely it is forbidden to raise small
domestic animals in Eretz Yisrael?
(h) Answer: His wife once found some chickens that someone
had left on their doorstep.
1. R. Chanina hatched their eggs, and sold the chickens
2. When the owner returned, he gave him the goats.
(a) R. Elazar b. Padas was very poor. After blood-letting, he
had nothing to eat except garlic, whereupon he fainted.
3) TECHNIQUES FOR BRINGING ON RAIN
(b) The rabbis found him in his sleep, laughing and crying,
with light emitting from his forehead.
(c) Upon awaking, he told them that Hashem had offered to
destroy the world on the chance that he would be reborn
1. But he didn't want to take the risk, since he was also
told that he had already lived more than half his
2. As a reward, he would be given 13 rivers of Afarsamon
oil in the next world, but nothing else, so as to
leave for others.
3. When he said that Hashem was not limited, He tapped
him on the head.
(a) R. Chama bar Chanina decreed a fast but no rain fell.
1. When challenged that R. Yehoshua b. Levi was able to
bring rain, he replied that R. Yehoshua was clearly
(b) Levi decreed a fast but no rain came.
2. They suggested that everyone concentrate and perhaps
they would become contrite, but their prayers were
3. He called to the skies to become cloudy, but nothing
4. He accused them of being brazen, and rain came.
1. He said that Hashem had ascended to Heaven and was not
showing mercy upon His children.
2. Rain fell, and Levi became lame.
(c) R. Chiya bar Lulayni overheard clouds saying that they
would rain on Ammon and Moav.
i. (R. Elazar) Never reproach Hashem.
ii. Question: Wasn't it due to Levi having done a
certain type of press-up that made him lame?
iii. Answer: Both were factors.
1. He protested to Hashem that nations which refused the
Torah should not receive rain, and rain fell on the
(d) He explained that the Pasuk compares a Tzadik to both a
date-palm and a cedar because the trunk of the latter
grows back Techiyas ha'Meisim) and the former produces
fruit (like reward in the next world).
4) WHEN TO STOP FASTING
1. Question: We see that the trunk of a cedar does not
(e) (Beraisa) R. Eliezer once decreed thirteen fasts but no
i. (Beraisa) One who buys a tree to cut it down,
must do so a certain distance from the ground
for certain trees;
2. Answer: This refers to a different type of cedar;
there are ten types.
ii. For other trees, such as cedars, he can remove
the roots, as they won't grow back anyway.
1. When the people were finally leaving, he asked them if
they had dug graves; their weeping brought rain.
(f) On a different occasion, he said the twenty-four Berachos
but was not answered, and R. Akiva said two Avinu
Malkeinu's and was answered.
1. The rabbis were suspicious of him, but a Bas-Kol said
that it wasn't that R. Akiva was greater, rather
that he was willing to overlook wrongs against him.
(a) (Beraisa) People should stop fasting for rain when enough
5) COMPLETING THE FAST AFTER RAINFALL
1. (R. Meir) To penetrate the cavity made by a plough.
(b) (R. Shimon b. Elazar) For every Tefach of rain that
penetrates the earth, three Tefachim rise from the
2. (Chachamim) To penetrate a Tefach in dry land, two in
regular land, and three in tilled land.
1. Question: A Beraisa states that two rise?
(c) (R. Elazar) When the water libation is done on Sukos, the
depths call to each other to pour forth.
2. Answer: That refers to tilled earth.
1. Rabah saw Ridayah, the Malach of rain, who looked like
a cow with a split lip, standing between the upper
and lower Tehomos.
2. He told the upper to pour down and the lower to spring
(a) (Beraisa) If the people were fasting and rain fell...
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1. (R. Meir) They complete their fast only if it fell
(b) R. Yehudah the Nasi decreed a fast, and even though rain
fell after sunrise, he thought to complete the fast, but
was told that midday is the demarcation point.
2. (R. Yehudah) They complete it only if it fell after
3. (R. Yosi) They complete it only if it fell after nine
hours, as we find that Achav only ate at the ninth
(c) Shmuel ha'Katan decreed a fast and rain fell before
1. The people wanted to take credit for it, but he
compared it to a master who gives in to his slave's
request rather than hear his voice.
(d) On another occasion, Shmuel ha'Katan decreed a fast and
rain fell after sunset.
1. The people wanted to take credit for it, but he
compared it to a master who delays giving in to his
slave's request so as to make him suffer and be
(e) Question: When would Shmuel ha'Katan consider rain to
reflect well on the people?
(f) Answer: If it fell as soon as they said that Hashem
(g) The Mishnah said that once, when the people were fasting
in Lod, rain fell before midday; R. Tarfon told them to
eat and celebrate, and they recited Hallel in the
1. Question: Why didn't they say Hallel before feasting?
2. Answer: Hallel is only said on a full stomach.
3. Question: When R. Papa's fast was answered before
midday, they said Hallel and feasted afterwards!?
4. Answer: In that town, drunkenness was common, and if
they feasted first, they might have been unable to