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Sukah 44

SUKA 36-56 (End of Maseches) have been dedicated by the wife and daughters of the late Dr. Simcha Bekelnitzky (Simcha Gedalya ben Shraga Feibush) of Queens N.Y. Well known in the community for his Chesed and Tzedakah, he will long be remembered.


(a) The Gemara, searching for a reason why Raban Yochanan ben Zakai instituted taking the *Lulav* for seven days (to commemorate the Mitzvah in the Beis Hamikdash) and not the *'Aravah'*, suggests that maybe it is because we are Yotze with the 'Aravah' in the Lulav.
Why is this answer unacceptable?

(b) How do we try to remedy the objection, and why is that also no good?

(c) Why can we not answer that it is because Lulav is d'Oraysa, whereas 'Aravah' is de'Rabbanan? What are the two possible sources of ''Aravah''?

(d) How do we finally distinguish between the two Mitzvos, to explain why Rebbi Yochanan decreed seven days by Lulav, but not by Aravah?

(a) Were blemished Kohanim normally permitted to enter the area between the Ulam and the Mizbe'ach?

(b) What does Resh Lakish say about them with regard to the Mitzvah of 'Aravah'?

(c) What two objections did Rebbi Yochanan raise to Resh Lakish's statement (see Tosfos DH 'Amar Lei Rebbi Yochanan')?

(a) Rebbi Yochanan argues with Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi as to whether 'Aravah' is a *Yesod* Nevi'im or a *Minhag* Nevi'im.
Which Nevi'im are we talking about?

(b) What is the difference between a 'Yesod' and a 'Minhag', and what are the ramifications of the Machlokes?

(c) What is Rebbi Yochanan's conclusive opinion?

(d) Rebbi Yochanan appears to contradict himself by quoting Rebbi Nechunyah Ish Baka'as.
What does Rebbi Nechunyah Ish Baka'as say?

(a) Initially, we try to answer the previous question by pointing out that really 'Aravah' was 'Halachah le'Moshe mi'Sinai', but that it had become forgotten during Galus Bavel, and the Nevi'im had re-instituted it.
On what grounds is this answer rejected?

(b) To whom was Rebbi Yochanan referring when he said 'Your's is really their's'!

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(a) Rav Ami issues three rulings with regard to 'Aravah': 1. that it requires a Shiur; 2. that it must be taken on its own; 3. that one cannot be Yotze with the 'Aravah' in the Lulav. Having said that it must be taken on its own, why does he need to add that one cannot be Yotze with the 'Aravah' in the Lulav?

(b) In which point does Rav Chisda Amar Rav Yitzchak disagree with Rav Ami?

(a) What Shiur does Rav Nachman give for 'Aravah'? How many twigs must there be, and how many leaves on each twig?

(b) Rav Sheshes is more lenient.
What is the problem with his statement 'Even one leaf and one twig'?

(c) So what did he really mean?

(a) Ayvu and Chizkiyah brought an 'Aravah' to their grandfather Rav. He did with it exactly the same as Ayvu, Rav's father said he saw Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok do.
What did they both do with the 'Aravah', and what do we learn from them?

(b) A man who owned villages, vineyards and olive-groves came before Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok in the Shemitah-year.
What She'eilah did he ask him, and what reply did he receive?

(c) What comment did Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok make before he returned?

(d) What did Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok instruct him to do upon his return?

(a) The Torah writes in Mishpatim "ve'ha'Shevi'is Tishmetenah u'Netashtah". What do we learn from the word ...
  1. ... "Tishmetenah"?
  2. ... "u'Netashtah"?
(b) In that case, how could Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok (in the previous question) permit digging in the vineyards?
(a) Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok also forbade walking more than three Parsah (just under three and a half hours walking distance) on Erev Shabbos. In the first Lashon, Rav Kahana restricts this stringency to someone who is homeward bound, but not if he is on his outward journey.
Why the difference?

(b) What does he say in the second Lashon?

(c) What happened once to Rav Kahana himself?

(a) The Beraisa expert learned that (in the case in our Mishnah) they would deposit their Lulavim on the *roof* of the covered-seating area ('al Gag ha'Itztava').
Why is that text illogical, and how do we amend it?

(b) What did Rachbah quote Rav Yehudah as saying?

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