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Sukah 36

SUKA 36-56 (End of Maseches) have been dedicated by the wife and daughters of the late Dr. Simcha Bekelnitzky (Simcha Gedalya ben Shraga Feibush) of Queens N.Y. Well known in the community for his Chesed and Tzedakah, he will long be remembered.

1) Ula bar Chinena quotes a Beraisa that qualifies 'Nikav ve'Lo Chaser Kol Shehu, Kasher' of our Mishnah.
When is an Esrog Pasul ...

  1. ... even with the tiniest hole?
  2. ... even when it has a hole and nothing from the Esrog is missing?


(a) An Esrog that is peeled, split or that has a hole, which our Mishnah already declares Pasul, are all similar to one of the Tereifos of an animal. Then what is Rava referring to, when he asks whether a sign of Tereifus invalidates an Esrog?

(b) What condition must be fulfilled for the animal to be a Tereifah?

(c) Rava's She'eilah by Esrog concerns when the seed chambers *are* intact. Why might the Esrog be Pasul even though the animal in the equivalent case is not a Tereifah?

(a) What do the following Esrogim have in common: one that is swollen or smelly, pickled or well-cooked, black, white or dotted?

(b) Is an Esrog Kasher if it is ...

  1. ... round?
  2. ... a twin (two grew together)?
  3. ... grown inside a form to change its shape?
(c) How do we try to resolve Rava's She'eilah (regarding an Esrog whose inside has melted) from the first two cases in the Beraisa ('an Esrog that is swollen or smelly')?

(d) But we conclude that the Beraisa may well *validate* an Esrog that is only bad *inside* (as in Rava's She'eilah), and that both 'swollen' and 'smelly' refer to the *outside* of the Esrog.
Then what is the difference between the two?

(a) The Beraisa validates an Esrog ha'Kushi, but invalidates one that is 'Domeh le'Kushi'.
What is ...
  1. ... an Esrog ha'Kushi?
  2. ... an Esrog ha'Domeh le'Kushi?
(b) Abaye establishes our Mishnah, which invalidates an Esrog ha'Kushi, by a Domeh le'Kushi.
How does Rava, who establishes it by a Kushi, reconcile it with the Beraisa, which validates it?
(a) The Chachamim validate a small Esrog the size of a white bean.
Why does Rebbi Akiva invalidate it (according to Rabah)?

(b) Rabah equates Rebbi Akiva opinion with that of his disciple, Rebbi Shimon.
What does Rebbi Shimon regarding a small Esrog of that size?

(c) Abaye disagrees.
Why might ...

1. ... Rebbi Akiva have a different reason for declaring such a small Esrog, Pasul (but agree with the Rabbanan of Rebbi Shimon by taking Ma'asros)?
2. ... Rebbi Shimon have a reason for exempting such a small Esrog from Ma'asros (but agree with the Rabbanan of Rebbi Akiva by Esrog)?
(d) Abaye concludes his contention with the words 've'Su Lo Midi'. What does this mean?
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(a) Rava permits an Esrog that grew in a form in the shape of an Esrog. Why is this obvious?

(b) Then what is Rava's Chidush?

(a) On what grounds does Rav (in the first Lashon) disqualify an Esrog which has been mouse-eaten and contains holes?

(b) Is Hadar Pasul on the first day only, or on all seven days?

(c) Rebbi Chanina used to eat part of his Esrog and then continue to use it.
How does he reconcile this with our Mishnah, which disqualifies an Esrog with a hole if some of the Esrog is missing?

(d) Could Rav (who disqualified the mouse-eaten Esrog because it was not Hadar) possibly agree with Rav Chanina?

8) What does Rav hold in the second Lashon?


(a) Rebbi Meir validates an Esrog the size of a nut; whereas Rebbi Yehudah requires a minimum size of an egg.
In which other area of Halachah do they have the same dispute? How many stones are permitted?

(b) Rebbi Yossi supports his ruling (permitting an Esrog so large that it must be held in both hands) with a story concerning Rebbi Akiva. What happened there?

(c) How does Rebbi Yehudah refute Rebbi Yossi's proof?

(d) Is this really Rebbi Yehudah's reason?

(a) According to Rebbi Yehudah, the three species of the Lulav must be bound with the same kind.
What does Rebbi Meir say?

(b) Rebbi Meir proves his point from the men of Yerushalayim, who used to tie their Lulav with gold threads.
How does Rebbi Yehudah counter this?

(c) Rava permits tying the Lulav even with the creeper or with thin strips of bark cut from a palm-tree (according to Rebbi Yehudah).
Does this beautify the Lulav? What is Rebbi Yehudah's reason?

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