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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous dafShekalim 10
SHEKALIM 10 (5 Teves) - Dedicated to the memory of Max (Meir Menachem)
Turkel, on his Yahrzeit, by his wife Jean and children Eddie and Lawrence.
(a) The Gemara asks why the Mishnah in Ta'anis needs to give the dates of
the families who donated wood for the Mizbei'ach annually - when in fact,
anyone could donate it.
(b) In fact, the right to donate wood for the Mizbei'ach was a privilege.
The respective families listed there earned the privilige to donate - even
if the wood-store in the Beis-Hamikdash was full - because, when they
returned from Galus Bavel, and found no (worm-free) wood, these same
families stepped forward and donated wood on the very days which would later
become allotted to them.
(c) According to Rebbi Acha, the author of that Mishnah must be Rebbi Yossi
of our Mishnah - who says that an individual may donate a Korban Tzibur.
(d) Rebbi Yossi (alias Rebbi Asi) quoting Rebbi Iyla, establishes the
Mishnah even like the Rabbanan of Rebbi Yossi. According to him, the
Rabbanan only argue with Rebbi Yossi regarding the actual Korbanos
themselves, but, as far as the wood (and other Machshirei Korban) is
concerned, they too, agree, that a private individual is permitted to donate
- even for the needs of a Korban Tzibur.
(a) The Tana of that Beraisa rules that if a woman knitted a shirt for her
son - the Kohanim are permitted to use it during the Avodah, provided she
hands it over officially for communal use.
(b) If, as Rebbi Acha maintains, the wood-offering is no more than Machsirei
Korban, then why would the Rabbanan say that, even when the Beis-Hamikdash
was no longer standing, the days that were designated to the respective
families to donate wood were considered private Yamim-Tovim. That would only
be the case, if the wood-offering in its time, was considered a Korban
Tzibur (like Rebbi Yossi in the Rabbanan).
(c) The second proof for Rebbi Yossi is from Rebbi Eliezer b'Rebbi Tzadok,
who claimed that he was a descendent of Sana'ah ben Binyamin (who was
designated the tenth of Av to donate wood). One year, when Tish'ah be'Av
fell on Shabbos (and was postponed until the tenth), the family did not
complete the fast, because it was their private Yom-Tov. Now, assuming that
the Rabbanan agreed with Rebbi Eliezer b'Rebbi Tzadok (because of the
principle 'Ma'seh Rav'), this is a sound proof for Rebbi Yossi quoting Rebbi
Iyla - that even the Rabbanan agree that one can donate wood for a Korban
Tzibur (which explains why it remained a Yom-Tov - even *after* the
Churban); but according to Rebbi Acha - that according to the Rabbanan, a
Yachid cannot donate even Machshirei Korban as a Korban Tzibur, (and *their*
wood-offering must have been no more than a Korban Yachid) why would they
have celebrated that day as a Yom-Tov - even after the Churban, when it was
no longer in practice?
(a) The only two Korbanos that must come from the produce of Eretz Yisrael -
are the Omer and the Sh'tei ha'Lechem.
(b) Rebbi Yishmael says that the Omer cannot be brought even from the
produce of Syria (which has some of the Dinim of Eretz Yisrael), so it can
certainly not be brought from anywhere else outside Eretz Yisrael.
(c) Eretz Yisrael is more holy than Chutz la'Aretz inasmuch as the Omer, the
Sh'tei ha'Lechem and Bikurim can only be brought from the produce of Eretz
(a) Rebbi Yishmael, who holds that the Omer must come from Eretz Yisrael,
will therefore maintain that cutting it is a Mitzvah. According to the
Rabbanan, who hold that the Omer can come from Chutz la'Aretz, it will not
be a Mitzvah to cut it.
(b) Our Mishnah could be speaking in a year of drought, when no crops are to
be found in Chutz la'Aretz. In that case, the author could even be the
Rabbanan, who will agree that one may plant seeds during the Shemitah in
such an emergency.
(c) If, in the Shemitah-year, no wild seeds were available for the Omer,
they were permitted to plant barley for the Omer. After taking the Kometz
however, the Shirayim were forbidden.
(d) We refute the contention that since the Shirayim are forbidden, one
cannot take the Kometz either - by comparing this to the five things that
are brought when they are Tamei (because Tum'ah Hutrah be'Tzibur), but
cannot be eaten (as we learnt in Pesachim 76b) - and one of them is in fact,
(a) The problem with paying the Shomrei Sefichim directly from the Terumas
ha'Lishkah is - that Hekdesh cannot go out to Chulin without redemption
(i.e. being transferred on to Chulin)?
The problem with regard to transferring the Terumas ha'Lishkah money on the
stones is - that sometimes, they get spoiled during construction.
(b) What they therefore did was to pay the Shomrei Sefichim with Chulin
money borrowed from a banker (so that they should not have to wait for their
wages until the Omer was ripe. Then they would transfer the money from the
Terumas ha'Lishkah on to the crops which the Shomrei Sefichim had been
guarding (the borrowed money is then returned, the Terumas ha'Lishkah money
goes to the Shomrei Sefichin, and the crops to the Beis Hamikdash).
(c) The problem with paying the Shomrei Sefichim directly from the Terumas
ha'Lishkah is - that they are paying the full value of the crops, whereas,
in reality, by the time the Omer is brought, it will have depreciated
through the cleansing and sifting processes required until it is brought?
(d) Whatever the Gizbar paid, answers the Gemara, that is its value
(irrespective of its subsequent depreciation).
(a) The ramps for the Parah Adumah and for the Sa'ir ha'Mishtalei'ach, the
red thread for the latter, the stream that passed through the Azarah, the
walls of Yerushalayim and its towers, as well as all the other municipal
needs of Yerushalayim, were funded with money from the Mosar ha'Lishkah.
(b) They were not bought with funds from the Terumas ha'Lishkah, because
they were not directly connected with the Korbanos.
(c) According to Aba Shaul - the Kohanim Gedolim funded the ramp for the
Parah Adumah out of their own pockets.
(d) In Rebbi Akiva's opinion, one does one not make profit ...
1. ... with Hekdesh money that is left-over - because it is a disgrace for
Hekdesh to convey an impression of poverty ('Ein Aniyus bi'Mekom Ashirus').
2. ... with Tzedakah-money when there are currently no recipients - because
a poor man might turn up the next day, and there will be no money in the
kitty to give him.
(a) According to the Tana Kama, the Mosar ha'Terumah (after Rosh Chodesh of
the next year) was melted down and turned into golden plates to overlay the
(b) Kayitz ha'Mizbei'ach is Olos Nedavah shel Tzibur, which the Kohanim
brought on the Mizbei'ach whenever it was not being used.
(c) According to Rebbi Yishmael, Mosar ha'Terumah went for K'lei Shares.
(d) Rebbi Akiva and Rebbi Chanina agree that Mosar Peiros does not go for
Kayitz ha'Mizbei'ach (like Rebbi Yishmael claims it does).
(a) The length of wool:
1. ... for the Sa'ir ha'Mishtalei'ach - was tied between its horns before it
was pushed down from the cliff-top.
(b) The piece of wool of the Sa'ir ha'Mishtalei'ach weighed *one* Sela -
because it needed to be divided into two; that of the Metzora, *half* a
Sela - because it did *not*; and that of the Parah Adumah, *two* Sela'im -
because it had to be heavy enough to fall into the "midst of the burning
2. ... for a Metzora - was dipped (together with the live bird and a piece
of cedar wood) into the blood of the Shechted bird - to sprinkle on the
Metzora in the course of purification ceremony.
3. ... for the Parah Adumah - was thrown into the burning cow together with
a twig of hyssop and a piece of cedar-wood .
(c) There is no difference between two and a half Sela'im and ten Zuzim
(because there are four Zuzim in a Sela).
(a) The Talmidei-Chachamim who taught the Kohanim the Hilchos Avodah, those
who examined the animals of Hekdesh for blemishes, the Sofrim who corrected
the Sefer-Torah of the Azarah (or of Ezra) and the two Dayanim of
Yerushalayim who judged matters of theft - all received their wages from the
Terumas ha'Lishkah. (It is not however, clear, what the latter two have to
do with the needs of Korbanos")
(b) According to Rebbi Choneh, the women who wove the Paroches ha'Kodesh -
were paid from Bedek ha'Bayis - because he considers the Paroches part of
the building; whereas as far as Shmuel is concerned, it is considered the
needs of the Korbanos (according to the Gra's text, it is considered like
the Keilim) which is why they were were paid from the Terumas ha'Lishkah.
(c) Those who examined the animals of Hekdesh for blemishes, were not
permitted to receive part of each animal they inspected as payment for their
services - because then, they would be encouraged to proclaim the animal
Kasher - to their own advantage (so it is obvious for that reason that any
Kashrus inspector may have no stakes in the goods that he is inspecting).
(d) The Mizbei'ach ha'Zahav come out of the Mosar Nesachim (the same fund as
the K'lei Shares, rather than out of the Bedek ha'Bayis (like the Mizbach
ha'Olah) - because it was not attached to the ground and was therefore
comparable to the K'lei Shares, inasmuch as it was movable like them.
(a) The Mizbach ha'Olah, the Heichal and the Azarah were funded from Bedek
(b) Outside the Azarah comprised anything that was outside the Ezras Yisrael
- i.e. the Ezras Nashim, the Chil, the walls of the Yerushalayim and its
(c) The author of the Beraisa 'Avnei Yerushalayim, Mo'alin Bahen' must be
Rebbi Meir, who says Mo'alin be'Shirayim (and we just learnt that the walls
of Yerushalayim came from the Sheyarei ha'Lishkah). The Rabbanan hold 'Ein
(d) Rebbi Chiya argues that even if the Beraisa does go like Rebbi Meir -
one would not be Mo'el - because Me'ilah applies only to the Sheyarei
ha'Lishkah during the first year, when one is Mo'el, according to Rebbi
Meir, only because the money may still be needed during the year (see above
Daf 9b. 9b.). But once the year has past, there is no Me'ilah - even
according to Rebbi Meir.
(a) When Rebbi Meir says that the Shulchan, the Menorah, the two Mizbechos
and the Paroches hold back the Korban - he means that if any of the above
are not in place, one cannot bring the Korbanos.
(b) According to the Rabbanan, it is only the basin and the stand that hold
the Korban back.
(c) According to some Amora'im, wherever the Torah writes "Nochach"
(incorporating the Menorah), it holds back the Avodah, according to others,
"Tzela" (incorporating the Shulchan) *as well*; according to yet others,
*even* the word "va'Yasem" (incorporating the Aron, the Paroches and the two
Mizbechos) will prevent the Korbanos from being brought .
(d) It is not clear who empowers all these Amora'im to argue with the
Chachamim in b., who hold that nothing but the Kiyor and its base hold back