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Shabbos 45


(a) Resh Lakish asked Rebbi Yochanan whether Rebbi Shimon concedes Muktzah by grains of wheat that one sowed in the ground, or by eggs that one placed under a hen to be hatched.
What is the Sha'aleh?

(b) Why should removing the seeds from the ground not be forbidden anyway, because of reaping?

(c) What did Rebbi Yochanan reply?

(a) How does the Gemara initially understand Rebbi Yochanan's words - to explain Rebbi Shimon - 'Ho'il ve'Huktzah le'Mitzvaso, Huktzah le'Isuro'?

(b) What is the problem with that explanation?

(c) How does the Gemara finally explain Rebbi Yochanan's words?

3) Does an express condition (made before Yom-Tov) help to permit the use of the Succos decorations on Yom-Tov?


(a) Why is the wood of a hut Muktzah on Yom-Tov?

(b) Why may one take wood from what is 'Samuch Lah' on Yom-Tov?

(c) The Beraisa concludes 've'Shavin (including Rebbi Shimon) be'Succas ha'Chag be'Chag, she'Hi Asurah'.
What does the Gemara prove from this Beraisa?

(d) Why did the Gemara prefer to ask from the Beraisa (which still needed this Beraisa of Rebbi Chiya bar Yosef to clarify it), rather than from that Beraisa directly?

(a) We learnt earlier that Rebbi Shimon concedes that Muktzah Machmas Mitzvah is forbidden.
Which other kind of Muktzah does he agree with, and why?

(b) Then who is the author of the Beraisa that forbids even fruit which *was fit* to eat, and which one carried up to the roof to dry - whilst he was actually partaking of them?

(c) Why does the Gemara initially reject this contention?

(d) How do we finally explain the Chidush of Rebbi Yehudah?

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(a) The Gemara insists that Rebbi Shimon holds of Muktzah only by Gerogros ve'Tzimukin, and not by Patzilei Temarah.
What are 'Patzilei Temarah', and why would we have thought that he concedes Muktzah by them, too?

(b) Why are Patzilei Temarah *not*, in fact, Muktzah?

(a) The Mishnah in Beitzah writes that one may water and Shecht 'Baysos' on Yom-Tov, but not 'Midbariyos'.
Why is water mentioned together with Shechting, and what is wrong with Shechting the Midbariyos?

(b) The Tana Kama explains that Baysos return each night, whereas the Midbariyos remain out in the desert until the rain season in Mar-Cheshvan.
How does Rebbi explain 'Baysos' and 'Midbariyos'?

(c) What does the Gemara ask from here on Rebbi Shimon bar Rebbi, regarding the Sha'alah of Patzilei Temarah?

(d) How does the Gemara answer this Kashya? Is there a proof from here that Rebbi holds of Muktzah even when it is not as strongly rejected as Gerogros ve'Tzimukim?

(a) Rebbi Yochanan rules (initially) like Rebbi Shimon. The Gemara attempts to reconcile this with Rebbi Yochanan elsewhere, who rules that the place where a chicken roosts is Muktzah, by establishing the latter case when there is a dead chick in the nest.
Why does the Gemara reject this answer?

(b) Why is a dead chick (and consequently the nest) not permitted due to the fact that it is fit for dogs?

(c) The Gemara then answers that the Beraisa speaks when there was a freshly- laid egg in the nest - which is Muktzah (even according to Rebbi Shimon) because it is Nolad.
On what grounds does the Gemara object to that answer?

(d) How does the Gemara finally establish the Beraisa even according to Rebbi Shimon?

(a) Some maintain that Rebbi Yochanan holds like Rebbi Shimon - regarding Muktzah; others, that he holds like Rebbi Yehudah.
What is the significance of Rabbah bar bar Chanah, who quotes Rebbi Yochanan as saying '*Amru*, Halachah ke'Rebbi Shimon'?

(b) Although the Gemara concludes that Rebbi Yochanan holds like Rebbi Yehudah, why is there no proof that he does, from Rebbi Asi, his Talmid, who refrained from picking up a lamp that fell onto a coat, on Shabbos?

(c) What does Resh Lakish hold with regard to moving a lamp?

(d) In which aspect of Muktzah does Rebbi Yochanan hold like Rebbi Shimon?

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