REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous dafShabbos 7
(a) Karmelis in the Beraisa on the previous Amud comes to include 'a Keren
Zavis ha'Semuchah li'Reshus ha'Rabim'. What does this mean (two
explanations), and what is the Chidush?
(b) According to Rebbi Yochanan, 'between the pillars' is also considered a
Karmelis, even though it is part of the Reshus ha'Rabim. What is
'between the pillars', and why is it considered a Karmelis?
(c) According to Rav Yehudah, the Itztava in front of the pillars is
considered a Karmelis. What does *he* hold regarding the area of
'between the pillars', and what are the two reasons for this difference?
(a) Is one Chayav for throwing something four Amos in the Reshus ha'Rabim
if it lands on a brick, a bush or excrement less than three Tefachim high?
(b) If the brick etc., is more than three Tefachim tall but less than ten,
what will be the difference whether the object lands on top of it or sticks
to its side?
(c) Rav Sheishes adds to Rebbi Yochanan's description of a Karmelis (at
least four by four Tefachim) 've'Tofeses ad Asarah'. Why can this not
mean that it must have walls of at least ten Tefachim?
(d) How could the Gemara even think that this might be a Karmelis? Surely
that would be a Reshus ha'Yachid?
(a) So what *did* Rav Sheishes mean with his statement?
Answers to questions
(b) Shmuel made a similar statement, when he said 'Lo Tehavei be'Mili
de'Shabsa le'Ma'alah mi'Yud'. How do we know that he did not mean that
the Reshus ha'Yachid only goes up to ten Tefachim, but no more?
(c) How do we know that he did not mean that the Reshus ha'Rabim only goes
up to ten Tefachim, but no higher?
(d) If someone throws an object four Amos in the Reshus ha'Rabim, and it
lands on the side of a wall above ten Tefachim, where it sticks, he is
They gave a Karmelis ...
1. ... some of the leniencies of a Reshus ha'Yachid, and
What does that mean?
2. ... some of the leniencies of a Reshus ha'Rabim.
(a) We learnt earlier that if a house is ten Tefachim tall from the roof to
the ground, but not inside, then one may carry on the roof, but not inside
it. What could one do to be able to carry inside, and why would it
(b) According to Abaye, holes in a wall facing the Reshus ha'Rabim have the
Din of a Reshus ha'Rabim. Why should this be any different than the
'Keren Zavis', which is an independent Reshus?
(c) What is the exact definition of a 'Keren Zavis'?
(a) We have learnt in a Mishnah in 'ha'Zorek', that if someone throws
something in a Reshus ha'Rabim, and it lands on a wall; if it lands above
ten Tefachim, it is as if it landed in the air; below ten Tefachim, it is
as if it had landed on the ground. According to Abaye, the Seifa could
speak when the article landed in a hole in the wall. Why then, does
Rebbi Yochanan establish that the Mishnah speaks by a juicy fig that stuck
to the wall? (two reasons)
(b) Why can we not explain the Reisha when it landed in a hole which is
less than four by four Tefachim?
(a) Rav Chisda says that if someone throws from the street on to a cane of
one hundred Amos tall, he is Chayav. What do we learn from Rav Chisda?
The text in our Gemara reads 'de'Kulei Alma Lo Pligi ke'de'Rav Chisda'.
(b) If someone throws onto a Ziz that is not four by four Tefachim, the
Chachamim rule that he is Patur. What does Rebbi say?
(c) How will we have to explain the Machlokes between Rebbi and the
Rabbanan for Rav Chisda not to hold like Rebbi?
(d) What exactly does this mean (according to the first explanation of
Answers to questions
(e) How does Rashi learn in his second explanation?