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Shabbos 84

***************GIRSA SECTION********************
We recommend using the textual changes suggested by the Bach, Rav B. Rensburg and the parenthetical marginal notes of the Vilna Shas. This section is devoted to any *OTHER* changes that we feel ought to be made in Gemara, Rashi or Tosfos.)

[1] Rashi 84a DH k'Mitah:
The words "*umi'Tachteha* Mekabeles"
should be "*u'Metichutah* Mekabeles"
(This seems to be the correct Girsa. Since the carriage made like a bed is
not completely tight (Matu'ach), it may be a receptacle for certain things,
rendering it fit to receive Tum'ah. - M. Kornfeld)

[2] Rashi 84b DH Mi Lo Askinan:
The words "Kol Davar *Tum'ah*"
Should be "Kol Davar *Tamei*"

1) [line 3] MIDRAS
(a) A Zav, a man who emits Zov two or three times, whether it is emitted in one day or in two or three consecutive days, is an Av ha'Tum'ah. Zov is a clear discharge with the appearance of the white of a sterile or spoiled egg, in contrast with semen, which has the consistency of fresh egg white. Zov can also be a pus-like discharge resembling the liquid from barley dough or soft barley batter.

(b) A Zav, like a Zavah, Nidah or Yoledes, can cause objects that are *under* him to become Avos ha'Tum'ah whether he touches them or not. The objects become Tamei Midras (lit. an object that is treaded upon), otherwise known as Mishkav or Moshav ha'Zav (or the *Tachton*, of a Zav). An object under a Zav becomes a Midras only if it was made for lying, sitting, or leaning upon. Earthenware objects (Klei Cheres) cannot become Midras.

(c) A person who *touches* or *carries* either a Midras or the Zav himself, along with the clothes he is wearing and other utensils (except for earthenware utensils) that he is touching at the time, get the status of Rishon l'Tum'ah.

(d) Utensils or clothes which lie *above* the Zav also get the status of a Rishon l'Tum'ah, whether they touches him or not. These are called the *Elyon* of a Zav.

*1b*) [line 5] V'IM YESH BAH BEIS KIBUL RIMONIM - that is, if the box carriage for stone transport has a small container in it, it is Tamei -- even though it is obviously very heavy when loaded with stones, and oxen must be employed to move it. (RITVA)

*2*) [line 6] SHALOSH TEIVOS HEN - it is not clear why the Gemara brings in this Mishnah. It does not seem to be directly related to our Sugya. (TOSFOS DH Shalosh)

3) [line 8] HA'BA'AH B'MIDAH - larger than forty Se'ah
4) [last line] MAPATZ - a mat woven from reeds


5) [line 1] PAKIN KETANIM - small flasks with a narrow neck
6) [line 5] RACHMANA LITZLAN ME'HAI DA'ATA - the Merciful One should save us from that (your) opinion

7) [line 5] ADERABA - just the opposite!

8) [line 12] TZAMID PESIL
If a k'Zayis from a corpse is in an Ohel (a space that is at least a Tefach by a Tefach square and a Tefach high), Tum'ah spreads out in all directions to fill the entire Ohel. Any metal vessels (covered or uncovered) or food and drink that are in the Ohel become Tamei. However, Klei Cheres only become Tamei when Tum'ah enters them. Therefore, when they are covered with a Tzamid Pesil (a tight seal) they do not become Tamei even if they are in the Ohel.

9) [line 15] ARUGAH - a garden patch
10) [line 15] ZER'ONIN - types of seeds (see Graphic #2)
11) [line 17] "KI CHA'ARETZ TOTZI TZIMCHAH, UCH'GANAH ZERU'EHA SATZMI'ACH" - "For as the earth brings forth her growth, and as the garden causes the things that are sown in it to sprout forth; [so HaSh-m Elokim will cause righteousness and praise to sprout forth before all the nations" (Yeshayahu 61:11) - The Mishnah uses the unusual word "Zeru'eha" to learn the laws of a vegetable patch that may be planted with different types of vegetables.

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