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Pesachim 81


(a) Rebbi Yossi learns in a Beraisa that a Shomeres Yom ke'Neged Yom who saw blood after they had already sprinkled the blood of her Pesach (a classical case of Tum'as ha'Tehom of Zivah), cannot eat the Pesach, yet she is Peturah from bringing a Pesach Sheini.
Why can she not eat the Pesach?

(b) Is there a proof from the fact that she is Peturah from Pesach Sheni, that Ritzuy Tzitz applies even to Tum'as ha'Tehom of Zivah? What might otherwise be Rebbi Yossi's reason?

(c) Then how will we explain Rebbi Yossi, who says in another Beraisa ... 've'Chein Shomeres Yom ke'Neged Yom she'Shachtu ve'Zarku Aleha ba'Sheini she'Lah, ve'Achar Kach Ra'asah, Harei Elu Mitam'in Mishkav u'Moshav *Lemafrei'a*, u'Peturah mi'La'asos Pesach Sheni'?

(a) What did Rebbi Yochanan ask Rav Oshaya, who said that a Zav who sees on his seventh day, must begin counting seven clean days again?

(b) What is wrong with Rebbi Yochanan's original statement 'Lo Yistor Ela Yomo'?

(c) What did Rav Oshaya comment on Rebbi Yochanan's Kashya? How does that prove that Rav Oshaya understands Rebbi Yossi as we explained him in 1d.?

(d) Now that we conclude that Rebbi Yossi renders a Zav becomes Tamei (min ha'Torah) from the time that he sees, and not retroactively, do we have a proof that, Rebbi Chiya's Beraisa ('Lo Amru Tum'as ha'Tehom Ela le'Mes Bilevad') is coming to preclude a Kohen from Tum'as ha'Tehom?

(a) Seeing as, according to Rebbi Yossi, subsequent sightings of a Zav do not connect with the previous one, how can a woman become a full Zavah, according to him (two answers)?

(b) If a Zav (who did not have a sighting during Bein Hashemashos) counts part of the night, is this considered like one day, or must he count specifically by day?

(a) What Sha'leh does Rav Yosef ask regarding Tum'as ha'Tehom concerning a Kohen by the Korban Tamid?

(b) Does Rav Yosef hold 'Tum'ah *Hutrah* be'Tzibur' or Tum'ah *Dechuyah* Hi be'Tzibur'?

(c) The Gemara answers this Sha'leh with a Kal va'Chomer from Nazir and Oseh Pesach.
What is the Kal va'Chomer?

(d) On what grounds does the Gemara refute this Kal va'Chomer (or any Kal va'Chomer in this regard, for that matter)?

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(a) Rebbi Eliezer told Rebbi Akiva that he cannot learn a Revi'is Dam from Etzem ki'Se'orah.
Which Halachah was Rebbi Akiva trying to derive from Etzem ki'Se'orah?

(b) Why did Rebbi Eliezer correct him?

(c) How does Rava finally resolve Rav Yosef's Sha'leh regarding Tum'as ha'Tehom by a Kohen by the Korban Tamid from Pesach?

(a) What does the Gemara initially want to learn from the Pasuk in Naso ...
  1. ... (by Nazir) "ve'Chi Yamus Mes *Alav"* - according to Rebbi Elazar?
  2. ... (by Pesach) "be'Derech Rechokah *Lachem*" - according to Rebbi Yochanan?
(b) How does Resh Lakish learn the same thing from "*be'Derech* Rechokah Lachem"?

(c) What problem does the Gemara have with the above from the Beraisa which describes Tum'as ha'Tehom as a Tum'ah of which not even one person was aware?

(d) What is the final source of Tum'as ha'Tehom, and what do we do with the above Pesukim?

(a) Is there any difference whether the Tum'as ha'Tehom was discovered *after* the Zerikas ha'Dam, or whether they got to know about it even *before* the blood was sprinkled?

(b) Why must this Sugya have been learnt in the Beis Hamedrash before that of Rav Yosef ('s Sha'aleh regarding a Kohen by Tum'as ha'Tehom by the Tamid) on the previous Amud?

(a) Does the Halachah of Tzitz Meratzeh Al Tum'as ha'Tehom also permit a Kohen to eat Terumah?

(b) Is a Kohen permitted to eat Terumah if he walked past a spot on the street where a Mes is later discovered to have been buried ...

  1. ... *along its length*?
  2. ... broken up into pieces across its width?
(c) When will the previous Halachah not apply even to a Kohen who is walking empty-handed?

(d) Why will it not apply in any case, to a Kohen who is carrying a heavy load or who is riding a carriage?

9) Why should there be a difference between a corpse that is found hidden in straw, dust or pebbles, and one that is found in water, a dark spot or a cleft in the rock?


(a) There are two distinctions between burning a Pesach most of which became Tamei, and when it is only a minority.
What are they?

(b) What is the Din regarding Nosar?

(c) What did the misers used to do?

(d) What is the reason for burning the majority of the Pesach which became Tamei in front of the Beis Hamikdash?

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