ANSWERS TO REVIEW QUESTIONS
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous dafPesachim 97
(a) Shmuel says that whenever a Chatas must die, a Shelamim under the same
circumstances is brought directly on the Mizbei'ach. This is just a chance
similarity, not because there is any logical connection between a Chatas and
(b) And whenever the Chatas must graze, he says, the Pesach grazes, too.
(c) Rebbi Yochanan says that a Pesach that is found *before* its replacement
has been Shechted is *not* brought directly as a Shelamim.
(a) Ro'eh means that it is sent into a field to graze until it obtains a
blemish, when it can be redeemed.
(b) According to Resh Lakish, the Mishnah in Temurah does not include 'Avrah
Shenasah' on its own, among the Chata'os ha'Meisos, but 'Avrah Shenasah
(c) Resh Lakish compares a Chatas she'Avrah Shenasah to one that is standing
in a grave-yard - to warn the Kohen that just as he is forbidden to Shecht
the latter, so too, should he refrain from Shechting the former.
(d) We learn from "Im Kesev" (Vayikra) that a Pesach she'Avrah Shenasah is
brought as a Shelamim. According to Resh Lakish, who learns that a Chatas
she'Avrah Shenasah, Ro'ah, a Pesach ought to be Ro'eh, too?
(a) The Gemara therefore restricts Shmuel's principle to the Avudin i.e.
Pesach she'Kipru Ba'leha. Whenever a Chatas that was lost, dies, the Pesach
is brought, and whenever it grazes, the Shelamim grazes too.
(b) Shmuel, explains the Gemara, holds like Rebbi, according to whom a
Chatas that is found after its replacement has been designated but not yet
brought, must die (and not like the Chachamim, who hold that it grazes), in
which case the fact that a Pesach that is found after mid-day (according to
Rebbi Zeira on the previous Amud - but before the Shechitah of the
replacement) is brought as a Shelamim, conforms with his statement.
(c) There is no problem with Rebbi, who holds that *every* lost Chatas dies,
whereas a Pesach that is both lost and found before mid-day, grazes -
because a Pesach that is lost *before* mid-day (when it is not as yet fit to
be brought on the Mizbei'ach) does not have the Din of a lost Pesach (even
if one replaced it with another one).
(d) This is derived from Rava, who said with regard to a Chatas that was
lost at night-time (when it is not yet fit to be brought on the Mizbei'ach)
is not called 'lost', and which consequently only grazes, and does not die.
(a) According to Rebbi (who says that even a lost Chatas that is found
*before* its replacement was brought, must die) the case of 'Chatas Ro'eh'
is when two Chata'os were designated, one to bring as a Kaparah, and the
other, as a back-up; one is brought, whilst the other is sent out to graze.
(b) But in that case, a Pesach under similar circumstances should graze,
too. Yet it does not, but is brought directly as a Shelamim (since this a
classical case of a Mosar Chatas)? (Note: the Gemara could just as well have
asked that this is not the case of Avud (lost) that we are trying to
(a) The Gemara concludes that Shmuel holds like Rebbi Shimon - who says that
the five Chata'os die *in all circumstances* (in the case of Avud,
irrespective of when it was found, and even in a case when one separated two
Chata'os). Consequently, since there is no case of Ro'eh by Chatas, the
previous Kashya falls away.
(b) We establish Shmuel like Rebbi Shimon - because it is only according to
him, that his principle 'Kol she'ba'Chatas Meisah, be'Pesach Karev Shelamim'
holds water. According to the Chachamim, a Chatas that is found before its
replacement has been brought - grazes, and according to Rebbi, when two
Chata'os that are designated, one to be brought and the other, as a back-up
- one of them grazes, whereas in both cases, a Pesach is brought on the
Mizbei'ach (and if Shmuel held like either of them, the Pesach ought to
(c) Retracting from the original version of Shmuel's statement, the Gemara
now accepts only the first half - 'Kol she'Bachatas Meisah, be'Pesach
Kareiv' etc., but omits the second half - 'Kol she'be'Chatas 'Ro'ah, Ro'ah'.
(d) Rebbi Yochanan says that the Pesach is only brought as a Shelamim if it
is found *after* the Shechitah of the replacement, but not when it is found
*beforehand* - even after mid-day, in which case, it grazes. According to
Shmuel however, even then, it may be brought as a Shelamim.
(a) Shmuel cannot be referring to a Pesach whose owner died - because the
Pesach is fixed at mid-day, so if the owner dies *after* mid-day, it must be
sent to graze.
A female lamb or a male lamb that is more than one year old, and that was
designated as a Pesach - is sent out to graze.
(b) It is also necessary to establish Shmuel specifically by a *lost* Pesach
- since that is what Rebbi Yochanan (with whom he argues) is talking about.
(a) If the owner of the Pesach dies, his son cannot bring it as a Pesach -
because it is a Pesach without designees.
(b) He brings it as a Shelamim.
(c) A son is permitted to bring it as a Pesach, provided he is a joint