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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous dafPesachim 120
PESACHIM 120-121 (25-26 Kislev) - the Daf study material for the first day
of Chanukah has been dedicated to the memory of Hagaon Rav Yisrael Zev
Gustman ZaTZaL (author of "Kuntresei Shiurim"), whose Shiurim lit the eyes
of many, by his students.
1) AFIKOMAN (cont'd)
(a) Mar Zutra learned the above points differently (reversed):
2) MATZAH AND MAROR NOWADAYS - D'RABANAN OR D'OREISA
1. We *are* Maftirin after the Matzah.
2. Let our Mishnah be a support (specifies the Pesach).
3. No, it is to be understood as "not only..."
4. Question: The Bereisa implies that the Matzah must be last!?
5. Answer: It is to be understood as "not only..."
(a) [Rava] Matzah today is d'Oreisa and Maror is d'Rabanan.
(b) Question: But both are linked in the Pasuk to the Pesach!?
(c) Answer: Matzah, however, is repeated "BaErev Tochlu Matzos."
(d) [R. Acha b. Yakov] Both are d'Rabanan.
(e) Question: But what of the repetition, "BaErev Tochlu Matzos?"
(f) Answer: It is needed to instruct those who do not eat the Pesach.
(g) Question: Whence will Rava learn their law?
(h) Answer: They can be derived from Arel without a special Pasuk.
(i) Question: Let R. Acha b. Yakov do the same?!
(j) Answer: Arel and Derech Rechoka are both written, and are needed.
(k) A Bereisa supports Rava.
1. The seventh day is singled out to inform us regarding all of
the days of Pesach (that Matzah is not obligatory).
2. Might we apply this to the first night, as well?
3. No, there is a special Pasuk obligating Matzah and Maror
4. What of that obligation once there is no Mikdash (and hence
5. The Pasuk "BaErev Tochlu Matzos" sets it as an obligation.
3) MISHNAH: LATE NIGHT AT THE SEDER
(a) Even if some fell asleep, all may continue to eat the Pesach.
(b) If all had fallen asleep, they may not then continue upon waking.
(c) [R. Yosi] If they *dozed* they may continue, but not if they
(d) After Chatzos the Pesach causes Tumas Yadayim (since) Pigul and
Nosar cause Tumas Yadayim.
(a) Question: What is the definition of dozing (in R. Yosi's law)?
5) NOSAR BY THE KORBAN PESACH
(b) Answer: Not quite asleep, but not quite awake, he answers when
called, he cannot answer logically but recalls when prompted.
(c) Abaye and Rabah applied the Mishnah to their actual situation.
(a) The Mishnah implies that the Korban Pesach becomes Nosar at
6) EATING MATZAH AFTER CHATZOS
(b) Question: Which Tana maintains that position?
(c) Answer: R. Elazar b. Azaryah, in his dispute with R. Akiva:
1. The words BaLayla HaZeh appear both regarding the Mitzvah to
eat the Pesach as well as by the plague of the firstborn.
(d) Question: What will R. Akiva do with HaZeh?
2. These both, then, coincide with Chatzos.
3. [R. Akiva]: The word Chipazon indicates until morning!?
(i) What, then, is the role of Balayla?
(ii) That it is not eaten during the day, unlike Kodeshim
(e) Answer: To preclude a different night.
1. We might have thought that Pesach, as Kodeshim Kalim, may be
eaten at the analogous time to the Shelamim (which is eaten
two days and a night), meaning two nights and a day.
(f) Question: How will R. Elazar b. Azaryah learn this law?
2. Thus HaZeh comes to restrict the Pesach.
(g) Answer: From Lo Sosiru Ad Boker.
(h) Question: What will R. Akiva do with this Pasuk?
(i) Answer: Without HaZeh we would have interpreted Boker as the
(j) Question: How will R. Elazar b. Azaryah respond?
(k) Answer: Every Boker refers to the first possible morning.
(a) [Rava] One who, nowadays, ate Matzah after Chatzos would not be
Yotze according to R. Elazar b. Azaryah.
(b) Question: This is obvious (since Pesach and Matzah are linked)!?
(c) Answer: It informs us that Matzah is *still* linked to the
1. Matzah had been severed from its obligation, and was
subsequently reconnected it.
2. I might not have known that its reconnection links it to
Pesach as it was originally.