POINT BY POINT SUMMARY
by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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PESACHIM 76 - has been dedicated by Mr. Avi Berger of Queens, N.Y. in memory of his parents, Pinchas ben
Reb Avraham Yitzchak, and Leah bas Michal Mordechai
1) MISHNAH: KASHRUS CHALLENGES FOR THE KORBAN PESACH [bottom of
(a) If the Korban touched the ceramic wall of the oven one
must scrape that meat off the Korban.
2) TOPIC: ILA'A GOVAR/ TATA'A GOVAR
(b) If gravy dripped onto the ceramic and splattered back
on the Korban one must excise the drop out of the
(c) If gravy dripped onto flour, one must scoop away (and
burn) that flour.
(d) If the Korban was smeared with Teruma oil, one must
remove the oil
1. If the Korban was raw, it may be washed away.
(e) If the Korban was smeared with Ma'aser Sheni oil, the
oil must not be converted to money, since that cannot
be done in Jerusalem.
2. If the Korban was roasted, it must be scraped.
(a) Opening teaching: Forbidden food falls into permitted
food or meat falls into milk.
3) TOPIC: MALIACH K'ROSEACH
1. Hot into hot - forbidden
(b) Question: According to Shmuel, why should one be
required to excise the drop out of the Korban in 1),(b)
above, the cold floor of the oven (bottom) should
dominate the hot gravy (top) and the splatter back to
the Korban will be cold (and of no concern)?!
2. Cold into cold - permitted
3. Hot into cold or cold into hot is a Machlokes.
(i) Rav maintains that the top dominates.
(ii) Shmuel maintains that the bottom dominates.
1. The Torah insists that the Korban only be roasted
by the flame, not by any other heat source,
including boiling drops heated by the oven floor.
(c) Answer: We are speaking of a hot oven.
2. Rav has no difficulty with the Mishna here.
(d) Question: According to Shmuel, why is the Halacha as in
1),(c) above, the (presumably cold) flour will dominate
the gravy and the splatter back should only cause
(e) Answer: We are speaking of hot flour.
(f) Question: According to Shmuel, why should washing off
the Teruma oil be sufficient, the hot Korban should
heat the oil, in turn causing it to be absorbed
throughout the Korban?
(g) Answer: The amount of smeared oil is trace.
(h) First Beraisa support for Shmuel:
1. Hot into hot is forbidden.
(i) Second Bereisa support for Shmuel:
2. Cold into hot is forbidden.
3. Cold into cold gets washed off.
4. Hot into cold gets washed off.
(i) Question: How can hot into cold only get
washed off - even if the bottom dominates,
there is still a moment of absorption before
the cooling takes place?!
(ii) Answer: Indeed, hot into cold requires
1. Hot meat into hot milk as well as cold into hot -
2. Hot meat into cold milk and cold into cold gets
3. Repeat of question/answer 2),(h),3.,(i) and (ii).
(a) Teaching (referring back to above, cold into cold gets
washed off): This is only if the items were not salted
(if they were salted, they are forbidden).
1. This is based on Shmuel who holds that salting is
(b) Case: A bird fell into a dairy dip, and R' Hinena
2. Shmuel also holds that pickling is like cooking.
3. Rava qualifies Shmuel's teaching and holds that
only if the food is salted enough to disturb
1. Rava praised R' Hinena for his understanding to
2. This bird was permitted because it was not so
3. This permission only relates to a raw bird,
whereas a roasted bird would require scraping.
(i) This permission does not relate to meat with
(ii) This permission also does not apply if the
bird were highly seasoned.
4) TOPIC: REICHA MILSA
(a) Opening teaching [Rav]: Kosher (fatty) meat roasted in
the same oven as non-kosher (lean) meat is forbidden.
1. This is because the fragrance of the one transfers
to the other.
(b) (Continuing the opening teaching) Levi holds that the
meat is permitted.
2. The fragrance, in turn, transfers back again.
1. Levi holds this permission even if the kosher meat
is the lean one.
(c) Question from a Bereisa: Two Korbanos Pesach cannot be
roasted together because of the mixture, apparently a
challenge to Levi?!
2. Levi considers fragrance to be insignificant.
3. Levi acted on this permission in the home of the
1. We assume that the "mixture" referred to is their
(d) Answer: The "mixture" refers to switching the Korbanos.
2. A group designated to one Korban Pesach must not
eat any part of another Korban Pesach.
1. (Support for this interpretation) The last clause
of the Bereisa prohibits using the same oven for
"even a kid and a lamb."
(e) Question: This last clause of the Bereisa would
apparently indicate that fragrance is *not* an issue
(and presents a challenge to Rav)
2. If the issue is the transfer of fragrance, then
why should it matter that they are the same, or
two different, types of animals?
(f) Answer: We are speaking of two pots.
1. Question: Two *pots*?! This is a Korban Pesach!
(g) Follow-up: This Machlokes seems to appear among the
Tanaim by the fumes of Teruma wine entering hot bread.
2. Answer: We meant separately in the oven, as would
be the case with two pots.
3. The Bereisa could be interpreted according to Rav:
(i) Two Korbanos Pesach cannot be roasted as one
for fear of mixture.
(ii) The mixture is flavors.
(iii)When they are separate (and no transfer of
flavor is possible), the prohibition is based
on a fear of switching the Korbanos
themselves, even a kid and a lamb.
1. R' Meir prohibits the bread.
(h) Teaching on the subject: Bread baked in an oven with
roasting meat may not be eaten with a dairy dip.
2. R' Yehuda permits the bread.
3. R' Yosi qualifies that barley bread *would* absorb
the flavor while wheat bread would not.
4. Levi would have to "line up" according to R'
Yehuda (and not like R' Meir or R' Yosi).
5. Rav could maintain that all the Tanaim subscribe
to Recha Milsa.
(i) R' Yehuda could permit the bread if the
barrel was sealed.
(ii) The dispute between R' Yehuda and R' Meir
only relates the a hot loaf and a sealed
barrel or a cold loaf and an open barrel.
1. A fish roasted together with meat may not be eaten
with a dairy dip.
2. Such a fish may not be eaten even with salt as it