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Nedarim 20

NEDARIM 19 & 20 (7 Av) - has been dedicated to the memory of Dr. Simcha Bekelnitzky (Simcha Gedalya ben Shraga Feibush) of Queens N.Y., by his wife and daughters. G-d fearing and knowledgeable, Simcha was well known in the community for his Chesed and Tzedakah. He will long be remembered.


(a) What do the following have in common: 'Nadar be'Cherem, ve'Amar Lo Nadarti Ela be'Charmo shel Yam'; Nadar be'Korban ve'Amar Lo Nadarti Ela be'Korbanos shel Melachim'; 'Harei Atzmi Korban, ve'Amar Lo Nadarti Ela ba'Etzem she'Hinachti Liheyos Noder Bo'?

(b) What is a 'Cherem shel Yam'?

(c) Seeing as our Mishnah basically elaborates on the phrase 'u'Pirusham Lehakel' in the Reisha, why does the Tana deal with the above cases (which are all new ones) here, and not with the equivalent cases that it dealt with initially?

(d) Is a man believed if, after declaring 'Konem Ishti Nehenis Li', he explains that he was referring to his first wife?

(a) What does Rebbi Meir mean when he says ...
  1. ... 'Al Kulan Ein Nish'alin, ve'Im Nish'alu, Onshin Osan'?
  2. ... 'u'Machmirin Aleihen'?
(b) The Chachamim disagree with Rebbi Meir in two points. According to them, we do not punish an Am ha'Aretz who contravened his Neder.
In which other point do they argue with the Tana Kama? Why do they refer to it as 'Makom Acher'?

(c) Does the Hatarah required of an Am ha'Aretz pertain to all the Nedarim mentioned in both Mishnahs?

(d) They conclude 'u'Melamdim Osan Kedei she'Lo Yinhagu Kalus Rosh bi'Nedarim'.
What do they mean with this? To which Nedarim does this pertain?

(a) How does Rav Yehudah reconcile the statement in the Mishnah 'Ein Nish'alin Aleihem' (meaning that it is not necessary to do so) with the subsequent phrase 've'Im Nish'alu, Onshin Osam ... ' (an obvious contradiction)?

(b) We explain 'Onshin Osam' in our Mishnah like the Beraisa, where Rebbi Yehudah rules that one must keep as many days as he did not keep initially. To which case is Rebbi Yehudah referring?

(c) Rebbi Yossi disagrees with Rebbi Yehudah.
How does he qualify his colleague's ruling?

(a) Based on the Tana'im in the previous Beraisa, what does Rav Yosef say about a Beis-Din that nullifies the Neder of someone who already contravened it?

(b) How would we have otherwise explained the ruling of the Tana'im 'Ein Nizkakin Lo'?

(c) Rav Acha bar Ya'akov is even more stringent with the Beis-Din.
What does *he* say?

(a) We rule like the Rabbanan in our Mishnah, with regard to both points in which they argue with Rebbi Meir.
What is the ruling regarding ...
  1. ... someone who contravened a Neder d'Oraysa?
  2. ... a Beis-Din who nullifies the Neder of someone who has already contravened it?
(b) On whom else do we declare a Shamta in this regard?

(c) A certain Rav annulled the Neder of a man who contravened his Neder forbidding all fruit on himself except for wheat.
On what basis did the Ba'alei Tosfos agree with him?

(d) Upon which Chumra did the Rav nevertheless insist (due to the fact that he had contravened the Neder)?

(a) What reason does the Tana of a Beraisa give for keeping away from ...
  1. ... Nedarim?
  2. ... an Amei ha'Aretz?
  3. ... Cohanim Amei ha'Aretz?
(b) According to some texts, the Tana says that the Cohen Am ha'Aretz will feed him 'Terumah Temei'ah'.
What is the difference whether the Terumah is Tehorah or Temei'ah, seeing as Terumah is forbidden to a Zar anyway?

(c) Why does the same Tana advise one not to talk to much to a woman?

(a) What does Rebbi Acha bar Yashiyah say will happen to someone ...
  1. ... who looks at women?
  2. ... who looks at the heel of a woman? What he mean by 'heel'?
(b) What does Rav Yosef mean when he says 'u've'Ishto Nidah'?

(c) The Tana of the Beraisa interprets 'Peneichem' in the Pasuk in Yisro "Lema'an Tihyeh Yir'aso al Peneichem le'Vilti Techeta'u" as 'Bushah' (reservedness - being ashamed to sin) from which he derives that the root of Yir'as Shamayim is Boshes Panim, and from which Acheirim derives that Boshes Panim is the antidote to sin.
What does Acheirim also say about someone who does not possess Boshes Panim, which also stems from this Pasuk?

(d) How does he know that it also extends to subsequent generations, who did not actually stand at Har Sinai?

(a) What did 'the angels' tell Rebbi Yochanan ben Dahav'ai about someone who, during Tashmish ...
  1. ... reverses the normal positioning of a man and a woman?
  2. ... kisses 'Oso Makom'?
  3. ... talks with his wife during Tashmish?
  4. ... gazes be'Oso Makom'?
(b) On what grounds did Eima Shalom (the wife of Rebbi Eliezer and sister of Raban Gamliel), have particularly good-looking children (see also Rosh DH 'Banayich')?

(c) Why would Rebbi Eliezer not perform Tashmish at the beginning of the nig ht or at the end?

(d) What did Eima Shalom mean when she described Rebbi Eliezer as 'Megaleh Tefach u'Mechaseh Tefach'?

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(a) Why was Rebbi Eliezer so scrupulously modest during Tashmish (see Rosh - DH 've'Nimtze'u')?

(b) How do we reconcile Rebbi Eliezer, who used to talk with his wife during Tashmish (it appears that, although 'Mesaper' really refers to Tashmish, it also incorporates conversing), with Rebbi Yochanan ben Dahava'i, who forbids conversing with one's wife during Tashmish?

(c) Rebbi Yochanan rules like the Chachamim who argue with Rebbi Yochanan ben Dahava'i.
What do they say?

(d) How does Ameimar prove from Rebbi Yochanan's ruling that the 'Mal'achei ha'Shareis' cited by Rebbi Yochanan ben Dahava'i cannot have been angels? Then who were they?

10) Why are the Chachamim referred to as angels?


(a) Rebbi too, follows the opinion of the Chachamim of Rebbi Yochanan ben Dahava'i.
What did he mean when he told the woman who came to complain to him, that he could not help her, seeing as the Torah permitted her to her husband?

(b) What did Abaye mean when he said that it was no different than a fish?

(c) What does Rebbi learn from the Pasuk in Sh'lach Lecha "ve'Lo Sasuru Acharei Levav'chem"?

(d) Ravina carries Rebbi's statement even further.
What does *he* say?

(a) The Pasuk in Yechezkel "u'Varusi Mikem ha'Mordim ve'ha'Posh'im" refers to 'B'nei Tesha Midos' (bad children that will result from nine improper relationships).
What are the 'B'nei Eima' and the 'B'nei Anusah'? Why does Rebbi Levi (the author of this Sugya) list them as one?

(b) 'B'nei Senu'ah refers to a wife whom her husband hates, and B'nei Niduy, to a woman on whom a Niduy has been declared. Who is meant by ...

  1. ... 'B'nei Temurah'?
  2. ... 'B'nei Merivah'?
(c) 'B'nei Shikrus' and 'B'nei Gerushas ha'Lev' are self-explanatory.
Whom does Rebbi Levi mean by ...
  1. ... 'B'nei Irbuvya'?
  2. ... 'B'nei Chatzufah'?
(d) Under which circumstances did Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeini Amar Rebbi Yonasan assure a man whose wife initiates Tashmish, children who will outshine even the children of the generation of Moshe Rabeinu?
(a) In the Pasuk in Divrei ha'Yamim "mi'B'nei Yisachar Yod'ei Binah la'Itim" - in view of the face that, with regard to the judges that Moshe chose, the Torah first writes in Devarim "Havu Lachem Anashim Chachamim u'Nevonim" and then "va'Ekach es Roshei Shivteichem, Anashim Chachamim vi'Yedu'im", which word stands out?

(b) What does this have to do with the Pasuk in Vayechi "Yisachar Chamor Garem"?

***** Hadran Alach ve'Eilu Mutarin *****

***** Perek Arba'ah Nedarim *****


(a) What are ...
  1. ... Nidrei Ziruzin?
  2. ... Nidrei Hava'i?
  3. ... Nidrei Shegagos?
  4. ... Nidrei Onsin?
(b) What do they all four have in common?

(c) In the Tana's example of Nidrei Ziruzin, he speaks about a seller and a buyer haggling over the price of the article.
What does each one vow?

(d) Why are their Nedarim not void? Why are their thoughts not considered 'Devarim she'ba'Lev' (unspoken words, which have no validity)?

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