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Nedarim 51

NEDARIM 51 - dedicated anonymously in honor of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, and in honor of those who study the Dafyomi around the world.


(a) Bar Kapara took a big basket, sealed it with tar and put it on his head; he asked Rebbi for the 40 measures of wheat that he lent him; Rebbi laughed.
1. Rebbi: I warned you not to make me laugh!
2. Bar Kapara: I meant, the 40 measures you owe me.
(b) Bar Kapara told Rebbi's daughter: 'Tomorrow I will drink wine as your father dances and your mother sings'.
1. Ben Elasha, Rebbi's son-in-law, was very wealthy; he invited Bar Kapara to a banquet in honor of the marriage of Rebbi's son, R. Shimon.
2. Question (Bar Kapara asked Rebbi): What is the meaning of the word To'evah (mentioned by homosexuality)?
i. Bar Kapara refuted every answer Rebbi gave.
ii. Rebbi: What do you say it means?
iii. Bar Kapara asked Rebbi to have his wife mix a drink for him; she did. He promised to answer if Rebbi will dance; Rebbi danced.
3. Answer (Bar Kapara): TO'Eh Ata BAH (you stray in it).
4. Question (Bar Kapara): What does Tevel (written by bestiality) mean?
i. Bar Kapara promised to answer if Rebbi's wife will mix another drink for him and Rebbi will dance again; they did.
5. Answer (Bar Kapara): Are TaVLin (spices) in it - why does a woman prefer such relations to human relations?
6. Question (Rebbi): What does Zimah mean?
i. Bar Kapara: If you do as before, I will tell you.
7. Answer (Bar Kapara): Zo MAh Hi (what is this?).
(c) Ben Elasha could not bear seeing Rebbi and his wife humiliated; he left with his wife.
(d) Question: Where do we see that Ben Elasha was wealthy (as mentioned above)?
(e) Answer (Beraisa): Ben Elasha did not squander his money for nothing; rather, to learn the haircut of the Kohen Gadol - "They will cut as spelt".
1. (Beraisa): It is cut as Lulianis.
2. Question: What is Lulianis?
3. Answer (Rav Yehudah): A beautiful haircut.
i. (Rava): Each hair ends at the root of the next hair.
(a) (Mishnah): And in ha'Remutzah gourd ... (b) Question: What is ha'Remutzah gourd?
(c) Answer #1 (Shmuel): Gourd of Karkuzai (a place).
(d) Answer #2 (Rav Ashi): A gourd wrapped in REMeTZ (hot ashes).
(e) Question (Ravina - Beraisa): R. Nechemyah says, Aramis gourd is Egyptian gourd; it is forbidden to plant this with Greek or ha'Remutza gourd (for they are different species).
1. Rav Ashi's opinion is refuted.
(f) (Mishnah): One who vows not to eat things made in a pot is only forbidden to eat things that finish cooking in a pot;
(g) 'I will not taste what enters a pot' - he is forbidden everything cooked in a pot.
(h) (Gemara - Beraisa): If he forbade 'what enters a pot', he is forbidden even things cooked in a frying pan (which normally) are previously cooked in a pot.
(i) If he forbade 'what enters a frying pan', he is permitted things cooked in a pot (Ran - even though they are standing to finish cooking in a frying pan; Tosfos - even if it later was cooked in a frying pan - 'what enters' connotes the 1st cooking).
(j) If he forbade 'what is made in a pot', he is permitted in things made in a frying pan;
(k) If he forbade 'what is made in a frying pan', he is permitted things made in a pot.
(l) 'What enters an oven' - this only forbids bread; (m) 'All oven products', this forbids anything made in an oven.


(a) (Mishnah): 'From the pickled' -only pickled vegetables are included;
1. 'I will not taste pickled (food)' - all pickled foods are included.
(b) 'From the overcooked' - only overcooked meat is included;
1. 'I will not taste overcooked (food)' - all overcooked foods are included.
(c) (Gemara - Rav Acha Brei d'Rav Avya) Question: What if he said 'that is pickled'? 'That is overcooked'? 'That is roasted'? 'That is salted'?
1. These questions are unresolved.
(d) (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): 'From the roasted' - he is only forbidden roasted meat;
1. 'I will not taste roasted (food)' - this includes all roasted food.
(e) 'From the salted' - he is only forbidden salted fish;
(f) 'I will not taste salted (food)' - this includes all salted food.
(g) 'Fish, fishes I will not taste' - he is forbidden big and small fish, salted and unsalted, raw and cooked;
1. He is permitted minced fish and fish brine.
(h) One who vows from Tzachanah (tiny fish, or fish parts) is forbidden to have minced fish, but may have brine and fish oil;
1. One who vows from minced fish is forbidden to have brine or fish oil.
(i) (Gemara): (Beraisa - R. Shimon Ben Elazar): 'I will not taste Dag (fish - masculine)' - big fish are forbidden, small fish are permitted; 'I will not taste Dagah (fish - feminime)' - big fish are permitted, small fish are forbidden;
(j) 'I will not taste Dag, (or) Dagah' - big and small fish are forbidden.
(k) Question (Rav Papa): Presumably, R. Shimon Ben Elazar's source that Dag means big fish is "Hash-m summoned a big Dag to swallow Yonah";
1. But it also says, "Yonah prayed to Hash-m from the innards of the Dagah"!
(l) Answer #1 (Abaye): He was swallowed by a big fish, and later was spit up and swallowed by a small fish.
1. Objection: "The Dagah in the river died" - can we say, only the small fish died?!
(m) Answer #2: Rather, Dagah refers to both large and small fish; by vows, we go after the way people speak.
(n) One who vows from Tzachanah ...
(o) Question (Ravina): What if he vows from Tzichin? (Ran - does this include brine and fish oil? Tosfos - does this include minced fish?)
1. This question is unresolved.
(p) (Mishnah): One who vows from milk is permitted to have Kum (water which separates from the milk); R. Yosi forbids;
1. One who vows from Kum is permitted to have milk.
(q) Aba Sha'ul says, one who vows from cheese is forbidden both salted and unsalted;
(r) One who vows from meat is permitted to have gravy and Kipah (tiny pieces); R. Yehudah forbids.
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