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Nazir 29


(a) Why, according to Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina Amar Resh Lakish (who states the source for the Halachah of a father annulling his son's Nezirus as Chinuch), can a father not declare his daughter a Nazir?

(b) According to Rebbi Yochanan, the Halachah specifies Nezirus and not other Nedarim. But why according to Resh Lakish, does the Halachah state Nezirus and not Nedarim?

(c) Bearing in mind Chazal's general reluctance to permit Nedarim, what does 'Nedarim' refer to?

(d) According to Resh Lakish, on what grounds did Chazal permit the boy and his relatives to object to the father's declaration of Nezirus?

(a) And on what grounds did Chazal permit the Nezirus to take effect, considering that ...
  1. ... shaving off all one's hair in one go is prohibited?
  2. ... min ha'Torah, the Korbanos that the Katan is bringing are Chulin, which means that he will be bringing Chulin to the Azarah?
(b) What problem do we also have with Resh Lakish Amar Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina with regard to the Korbanos that the son brings, should he become Tamei?

(c) If the animal does not require Shechitah min ha'Torah, how will he extract the Dam ha'Nefesh?

(d) We explain that Resh Lakish holds like Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah regarding Shechitas Of.
What does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah say?

(a) Why does Rabeinu Chananel reject the text that quotes the author in the forthcoming Beraisa as Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina?

(b) There are other indications however, that the text is correct.
On what grounds does Rabeinu Tam reinstate it (in spite of Rabeinu Chananel's objection)?

(a) Which Korban does a man bring for transgressing a Safek Ka'res?

(b) We know that a woman has the same Din as a man as regards a Safek Ka'res as well as a Vaday.
In that case, in which respect does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah (or Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina) learn the Hekesh in Metzora "la'Zav ve'la'Zavah, *la'Zachar ve'la'Nekeivah"* as regards both Vaday and Safek?

(c) What is meant, in this context by ...

  1. ... Zachar?
  2. ... Nekeivah?
(d) And what does he mean when he says 'mi'Min she'Meivi al ha'Vaday, Meivi al ha'Safek' concerning both a Zachar and a Nekeivah?
(a) On what grounds does the Tana (in spite of the Hekesh) refute the suggestions that the Safek Chatas of the woman, like that of a man, may be eaten?

(b) Which two Isurim is he referring to?

(c) Based on the fact that the author of this Beraisa is Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah (or Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina), what are we trying to prove from here?

(a) How does Rav Acha Brei de'Rav Ika counter this Kashya?

(b) This suggests that, if they were d'Oraysa, we would not be able to learn the Hekesh.
Since when is it possible to refute a Hekesh with Pirchos (logical disproofs)?

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(a) Rebbi permits a father to declare his son a Nazir up until the time that he produces Sh'tei Sa'aros (becomes a Gadol at thirteen), whereas according to Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah, it is only until he reaches the age of Nedarim (twelve if he realises the significance of a Neder).
How do we initially interpret of their Machlokes?

(b) What do we mean when, explaining Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah, we then say 've'Keivan *de'Nafik me'Reshusei*, Su Lo Mechayev'?

(c) We refute this suggestion however, on the grounds that both could hold either that a father declaring his son a Nazir is a Halachah or that it is a branch of Chinuch.
What is the basis of the Machlokes between Rebbi and Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah, assuming that it is ...

  1. ... a Halachah?
  2. ... a branch of Chinuch?
(d) How can Rebbi possibly hold that the source of the father's declaring his son a Nazir is Chinuch, seeing as in Chulin, he maintains that a bird requires Shechitah min ha'Torah, in which case the Kohen would be eating Neveilah (as we asked earlier)?
(a) When Rebbi Chanina's father brought his son to Raban Gamliel after declaring him a Nazir, Raban Gamliel declared that he would examine him to see whether he had brought two Sa'aros or not.
Why must 'Rebbi' Chanina have been thirteen at the time?

(b) What does Rebbi Yossi (or Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina) say?

(c) What is the basis of their Machlokes?

(d) How did Raban Gamliel react when Rebbi Chanina told him that the examination was not necessary because, in the event that his father's declaration should be ineffective, he was undertaking his own Nezirus?

(a) What problem do we have with 'Rebbi' Chanina's words 've'Im Gadol Ani, Eh'yeh Bish'vil Atzmi', according to Rebbi?

(b) How do we therefore explain 'Katan' and 'Gadol' to resolve this problem (see Rosh)?

(a) What would have been the Din if Raban Gamliel ...
  1. ... had discovered that he had already brought Sh'tei Sa'aros?
  2. ... had only examined him at the end of thirty days and discovered then that he had brought Sh'tei Sa'aros?
(b) If, on the other hand, he brought Sh'tei Sa'aros in the middle of the thirty days ...
  1. ... what problem would this cause, according to Rebbi?
  2. ... why would this problem not exist according to Rebbi Yossi (or Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah)?
(c) Why are we nevertheless not afraid, according to him, that he might just reach the level of Onas Nedarim in the middle of the thirty days, thereby negating his father's Nezirus, and remaining unable to shave and bring his Korbanos?

(d) How would Raban Gamliel have alleviated the problem, according to Rebbi?

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