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Nazir 11


(a) What is the Din if someone declares over the glass of wine that was poured out for him 'Hareini Nazir Mimenu'?

(b) On what grounds did the Chachamim rule that, when another glass of wine was poured out for that drunken woman who declared 'Hareini Nazir Mimenu', only that glass was forbidden to her?

(c) A story in a Mishnah inevitably comes to illustrate the Halachah contained in the Mishnah.
How do we therefore amend our Mishnah for the story of the drunken woman in our Mishnah (which clashes with the Mishnah as it stands) to conform with the Halachah that precedes it?

(a) What does the Tana of our Mishnah rule with regard to someone who declares Nezirus provided he may continue to drink wine and become Tamei Meis?

(b) According to the Tana Kama, if a Nazir claims that although he knew about Nezirus, he was not aware that a Nazir is forbidden to drink wine, he is nevertheless a full-fledged Nazir.
What does Rebbi Shimon say?

(c) What is the basis of their Machlokes?

(d) In a case where the Noder claims that he thought that either the Chachamim would permit him to drink wine, because he was an alcoholic, or that they would permit him to bury the dead, since he was an undertaker, what is the opinion of ...

  1. ... Rebbi Shimon?
  2. ... the Rabbanan?
(a) What does Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi reply, when we ask why Rebbi Shimon (who requires a Nazir to undertake all the aspects of Nezirus) does not also argue with the Tana Kama in the Reisha, where he said 'Hareini Nazir al-Menas she'Ehei Shoseh Yayin u'Metamei le'Meisim'?

(b) However, we have learned a Beraisa in support of Ravina who disagrees with Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi.
What does Ravina say?

(c) On what grounds does Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi argue with Ravina? Why does he not consider 'al-Menas she'Ehei Shoseh Yayin ... ' to be 'Masneh al Mah she'Kasuv ba'Torah'?

(d) According to this, why, by Kidushin, if the man said 'al-Menas she'Ein Lach Alai She'er K'sus ve'Onah', is the Kidushin not effective? Why do we not consider it as if he had said 'Chutz'?

(a) We just learned that, according to Ravina, ' ... al-Menas she'Ehei Shoseh Yayin' is considered 'Masneh Al Mah she'Kasuv ba'Torah', even according to Rebbi Shimon, whereas in the opinion of Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi, Rebbi Shimon considers 'al-Menas' like Chutz (which is valid).
What is the technical difference between the two?

(b) Why is any condition by Nezirus not ineffective anyway, seeing as Nezirus cannot be performed by a Sheli'ach (in which case it is not similar to the condition of the B'nei Gad and B'nei Reuven, from which all Dinim of T'nai are derived)?

(a) We also learned in the Seifa (in the case where the Noder claims that he thought that either the Chachamim would permit him to drink wine, because he was an alcoholic, or that they would permit him to bury the dead, since he was an undertaker) that the Rabbanan say 'Harei Zeh Mutar', whereas Rebbi Shimon holds 'Asur' (seemingly having switched their opinions from the Reisha). Some switch the opinions in the Seifa to conform with the Reisha. Others retain the opinions as they stand.
How do they establish the Seifa in order to justify this?

(b) How will the reverse logic now work?

(c) How might we prove this from the Lashon used in the Seifa?

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(a) We learned in Nedarim about four specific types of Nedarim: 'Nidrei Ziruzin, Nidrei Hava'i, Nidrei Shegagos and Nidrei Onsin'.
What was Shmuel's response to Rav Yehudah, who quoted Rav Asi as saying that these four Nedarim require Hatarah?

(b) What are 'Nidrei Onsin'? What does that have to do with our Mishnah?

(c) How do we finally establish the Machlokes between Rebbi Shimon and the Rabbanan in the Seifa of our Mishnah like that of Rav Asi and Shmuel?

(a) Why would we not be able to compare the O'nes in our Mishnah (if it was speaking when the O'nes was already known) to the Mishnah of Nidrei Onsin?

(b) How does Rabeinu Tam nevertheless reconcile our Mishnah with the Mishnah of Nidrei Onsin?

(a) If someone declared 'Hareini Nazir va'Alai Legale'ach Nazir' and his friend overheard and said 'va'Ani ve'Alai Legale'ach', what would they do if they were smart?

(b) Failing that, what must they do?

(a) We ask what the Din will be if someone declared 'Hareini Nazir va'Alai Legalei'ach Nazir', and his friend overheard and said 'va'Ani'.
What are the three possibilities?

(b) From our Mishnah, where the second man said 'va'Ani, ve'Alai Legalei'ach', we immediately resolve that 'va'Ani' on its own only pertains to half of the first man's Neder.
Which half?

(c) Rav Huna Brei de'Rav Yehoshua tries to reject this proof from the Seifa 'Harei Alai Legalei'ach Chatzi Nazir, ve'Shama Chaveiro, ve'Amar va'Ani, Alai Legalei'ach Chatzi Nazir'.
What does he prove from there?

(d) How does Rava reinstate the proof from the Reisha?

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