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(a) When Rebbi Avahu Amar Rebbi Yochanan states 'Kol Revi'iyos she'ba'Torah
Ein Heter Mitztaref le'Isur' - he might be referring to Revi'is of wine of
Orlah or of K'lai ha'Kerem.
(b) When he concludes 'Chutz me'Revi'is she'be'Nazir' - he disagrees with
Rebbi Avahu Amar Rebbi Yochanan, who said the same thing with regard to all
Isurim in the Torah, inasmuch as Rebbi Yochanan includes even the *solids*
of a Nazir (such as grape-pits and skins) in the Isur which half a Shiur of
Heter will supplement, whereas Rebbi Elazar restricts it to *wine*.
(a) Rebbi Elazar lists ten 'Revi'iyos' - which Rav Kahana categorizes as
five red liquids and five white ones.
(b) The Si'man for the five red ones is 'Nazir, ve'Oseh Pesach, she'Horu,
ba'Mikdash, u'Meisu'. 'Nazir' refers to a Revi'is wine for which a Nazir is
Chayav - the opinion of the Tana Kama of our Mishnah (whereas according to
Rebbi Akiva, the Shiur is a k'Zayis).
(c) What is meant by ...
1. ... 've'Oseh Pesach' is - the four cups of wine at the Seder, each of
which needs to hold a Revi'is.
(d) The last of the five refers to one Revi'is of blood that drained from
two dead people. We extrapolate this from the Pasuk "ve'Al Kol Nafshos Meis
Lo Yavo" - from the fact that "Nafshos" is in the plural and "Meis" in the
2. ... 'she'Horu' is - that someone who has drunk a Revi'is of wine, is
forbidden to issue Halachic rulings.
3. ... 'ba'Mikdash' is - that someone who has drunk a Revi'is of wine is
forbidden to enter the Beis-Hamikdash.
(a) And the Si'man for the white ones is 'Chalas, Nazir, u'Metzora,
she'Nifselu, be'Shabbos'. The first of these is 'Revi'is Shemen le'Chalah',
referring to the three kinds of Chalos of a Todah, regular Chalos, bread
scalded in boiling water and wafers - each of which there were ten.
What is meant by the Si'man of ...
(b) The half-Log of oil was divided among the three kinds of loaves - a
quarter Log for the wafers and the Chalos, and a quarter for the loaves
scalded in boiling water.
(c) 'Nazir' refers to the Revi'is Shemen le'Nazir' - who had to bring two
kinds of loaves, Chalos and wafers.
(d) A Revi'is ha'Log was used for each kind of loaf.
1. ... 'u'Metzora' is - the quarter of a Log of water in which they
initially Shechted one of his two birds, before dipping the cedar wood, the
hyssop, the red thread and the remaining live bird into it. A quarter of a
Log is the maximum in which the blood of the Shechted bird would still be
2. ... 'she'Nifselu' is - that someone who drinks a Revi'is of Tamei liquid
is forbidden to eat T'rumah and renders T'rumah Pasul if he touches it.
3. ... 'be'Shabbos' is - that someone who carries on Shabbos a Revi'is of
any liquid (other than those already listed in the Mishnah in Shabbos), as
well as putrid water, is Chayav.
(a) The Mishnah in Yadayim 'me'Revi'is Notlin la'Yadayim le'Echad va'Afilu
li'Shenayim' means - that the Shiur for one or two people who wash their
hands before eating bread, is a Revi'is.
(b) Rebbi Elazar does not include it in his list - because it is not
unanimous (according to others, a Revi'is will suffice for one person, but
not for two).
(c) He nevertheless included 'Nazir' ('Revi'is Yayin le'Nazir'), even though
Rebbi Akiva disagrees - because for some reason, he was only particular not
to include cases that are subject to Machlokes in the list of white liquids,
but not in that of red ones.
(d) For the same reason, he does not include the Mishnah in Sotah, where,
according to Rebbi Yehudah, the Kohen placed a Revi'is of water into an
earthenware cup for the Sotah to drink, and the Mishnah in B'rachos, where
Rebbi Zakai requires a Revi'is of water in a chamber-pot in order to Daven.
The Tana Kama ...
1. ... in the Mishnah in Sotah gives the Shiur - as half a Log.
2. ... in the Mishnah in B'rachos - as even a 'Kol she'Hu'.
(a) The case of Mikveh that Rebbi Elazar appears to have omitted is - the
Toveling of needles (and other small objects), which may be performed in a
Revi'is of water.
(b) He omitted it - because Chazal subsequently forbade it (in favor of a
Mikveh of forty Sa'ah).
(c) He omitted the Din of a fountain comprising a Revi'is of water which is
fit to Tovel small objects - because in fact, even a 'Kol she'Hu will
(d) A person was never permitted to Tovel in a fountain containing less than
(a) The Tana Kama of our Mishnah states 've'Eino Chayav ad she'Yochal min
ha'Anavim k'Zayis'. We initially establish this statement like Rebbi Akiva
(whose opinion is mentioned later). The Shiur by liquids according to him -
will be a k'Zayis, too.
(b) The Rabbanan will say - that the Shiur for both solids and liquids is a
(c) One measures ...
1. ... a k'Zayis of liquid - by filling a cup with liquid and dropping an
Aguri'-olive into it (the liquid that is displaced is a k'Zayis) Tosfos.
(d) We reject the contention that the Tana Kama holds like Rebbi Akiva on
many scores. One of them is - the fact that we never find the Tana citing
the Mishnah Achoranah before the Mishnah Rishonah.
2. ... a Revi'is of solid - by dropping the equivalent of what one ate into
a cup full of liquid. If the liquid that has been displaced is equal to a
Revi'is, then one knows that he ate a Revi'is.
(a) We finally establish the Tana Kama's statement 've'Eino Chayav ad
she'Yochal min ha'Anavim k'Zayis' - unanimously (because even the Rabbanan
concede that the Shiur of food by a Nazir is a k'Zayis).
(b) Rebbi Akiva and the Rabbanan only argue - whether, with regard to Nazir,
liquids have the same Shiur as solids or not.
(c) Rebbi Akiva learns from the Pasuk "va'Anavim Lachim vi'Yeveishim Lo
Yochal" - that liquids have the same Shiur as solids. This he derives from
the 'Vav' of *"va*'Anavim", which connects this Pasuk to the preceding one
"ve'Chol Mishras Anavim Lo Yishteh" (referring to wine).
(a) The Torah writes "va'Anavim Lachim vi'Yeveishim Lo Yocheil". "Anavim
Yeveishim" are - raisins.
(b) The Torah could have written just "va'Anavim Lo Yocheil". We learn from
the excessive Lashon - that if a Nazir eats a k'Zayis of grapes and a
k'Zayis of raisins immediately after receiving one warning, he receives two
sets of Malkos.
(c) We extend this to all Isurei Nazir, including fresh wine and grapes -
which (unlike grapes and raisins) have different names but the same taste.
(d) The Tana finds it necessary to include this, despite the fact that it
appears to be explicit in the Pasuk "mi'Yayin ve'Sheichar Yazir (which
Unklus translates as 'fresh and old wine') ... va'Anavim ... Li Yocheil" -
because the fresh wine mentioned in the Pasuk could be referring to wine
that is more than three days old, which no longer tastes like grapes
(creating the necessity to mention that he is Chayav two Malkos, even if the
two foods have the same taste).
(a) According to Abaye, a Nazir who ate either grape-pits or grape-skins
receives two sets of Malkos; one for "me'Chartzanim (or ve'ad Zag) Lo
Yocheil" - the other one, "mi'Kol Asher Ye'aseh mi'Gefen ha'Yayin".
(b) For eating grape-skins and grape-pits - he will then receive three sets.
(c) According to Rava - there is no Malkos for "mi'Kol Asher Ye'aseh
mi'Gefen ha'Yayin", because it is a 'La'av she'bi'Chelalus' (one La'av that
incorporates a number of things).
(a) According to Abaye, someone who eats a k'Zayis of grapes, of raisins, of
pits, of skin and of fresh grape-juice all within one warning - will receive
six sets of Malkos (five for "Lo Yocheil" and one for "mi'Kol Asher
(b) The Tana of the Beraisa states 'five' - only because he omits it from
his list (not because it does not belong there).
(c) We then search for at least one additional omission. We cannot consider
old wine and vinegar, which the Tana omitted, as that additional omission
since, as far as 'Shiyur' is concerned, we are searching for the omission of
additional La'avin for eating the same prohibited food (not with more kinds
of food that could be added to the list) Tosfos.
(d) The La'av omitted by the Tana according to Abaye is - that of "Lo Yachel
(a) We conclude that this is not really an omission at all, seeing as we are
only concerned with La'avin that are peculiar to Nezirus, whilst "Bal
Yachel" pertains to other Nedarim as well. We do not make this point in
order to ask on Abaye - but because otherwise there will be a Kashya on
Rava, since the Tana never omits only one thing from his list.
(b) Ravina mi'Parzika asked Rav Ashi from the omission of Bein ha'Beinayim -
on Abaye, assuming he concurs with Rava, and does not consider "Lo Yachel"
as a Shiyur (Tosfos).
(c) If Bein ha'Beinayim means small grapes, the Kashya is clear, seeing as
the Tana does indeed omit these sort of grapes from his list (though it is
then unclear how this differs from old wine and vinegar which, as we
explained earlier, is not considered a Shiyur anyway). If it pertains to the
flesh between the skin and the pits (which is included in 'Anavim') - he is
asking from the fact that the way the flesh is picked from the grape is
unusual, and requires a special Pasuk ("ve'Ad") to obligate the Nazir. And
it is that La'av which the Tana omits.
(a) On account of the previous Kashya (from 'Bein ha'Beinayim'), we amend
the text of the Beraisa ('Lokeh Chamesh') - to read 'Lokeh' (which could
well mean *five* sets of Malkos, and not six (as we originally thought).
(b) Rav Papa read it as 'Lokeh Chamesh' when querying Abaye - because, not
realizing that Abaye had a Kabalah (tradition) that one receives Malkos for
a La'av she'bi'Chelalus, he wanted to see whether he would not retract.
1. 'Purtzanin' - means pits.
(d) In that case, Unklus, who translates "me'Chartzanim ve'Ad Zag"
'mi'Purtzanin ve'Ad Itzurin' - holds like the opinion of Rebbi Yossi in our
2. 'Itzurin' - means skins (from the Aramaic word which means to squeeze
[something that one cannot do with the pits]) Tosfos.