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Moed Katan 21

MOED KATAN 21 - sponsored by Harav Ari Bergmann of Lawrence, N.Y., out of love for Torah and those who study it.


(a) We just learned the obligation to tear Keri'ah standing from the Pasuk "va'Yakam Iyov va'Yikra es Me'ilo".
How does the Pasuk there "va'Yagaz es Rosho" force us to retract from that source?

(b) We ultimately learn Keri'ah standing from a Pasuk in Shmuel 2 "va'Yakam ha'Melech va'Yikra es Begadav".
Which king is the Pasuk referring to? What was the occasion?

(c) How are we almost forced to retract from that source too, due to the Pasuk there "va'Yishkav Artzah"?

(d) What then, *does* "va'Yishkav Artzah" mean?

(a) An Aveil is forbidden to work, bathe, anoint himself, indulge in Tashmish ha'Mitah or wear shoes. He is also forbidden to learn Torah. Besides the Halachos of Aveilus (which are not quoted here), is there any area of Torah that is permitted to him?

(b) Why is Torah-study forbidden more than other Mitzvos?

(c) A leader of the community is permitted to teach Torah if the community needs him (e.g. to say the communal Derashah).
What is he nevertheless forbidden to do?

(d) That is precisely what happened to Rabah bar bar Chanah when he became an Aveil. First they permitted him to go and give the Derashah, then they forbade him to use a Meturgeman.
How do we reconcile this with Rebbi Yehudah b'Rebbi Ila'i, who did give the Derashah when he was an Aveil, using a translator?

(a) Rebbi Eliezer in a Beraisa forbids an Aveil to wear Tefilin for the first three days of his Aveilus.
How does this tie up with the fact that he is then permitted to wear them from the third day and onwards (third day included)? Is the third day forbidden or is it permitted (see Tosfos DH 've'Asur')?

(b) What does he mean when he adds that if new visitors come to see him, he need not remove his Tefilin. When is this speaking?

(c) This is the opinion of Rebbi Eliezer.
What does Rebbi Yehoshua say about ...

  1. ... the number of days that an Aveil does not wear Tefilin?
  2. ... removing one's Tefilin if new visitors come to see him on the second day once he has already put them on? Why is that?
(a) What does ...
  1. ... Rebbi Eliezer learn from the Pasuk in ve'Zos ha'Berachah "va'Yitmu *Yemei* Ve'chi Eivel Moshe"?
  2. ... Rebbi Yehoshua learn from the Pasuk in Amos "ve'Acharisah *ke'Yom* Mar"?
(b) How will ...
  1. ... Rebbi Yehoshua explain the Pasuk "va'Yitmu *Yemei* Vechi Eivel Moshe"?
  2. ... Rebbi Eliezer explain the Pasuk "ve'Acharisah *ke'Yom* Mar"?
(c) Ula rules like Rebbi Eliezer, that, on the *third* day, the Aveil does not need to remove his Tefilin when visitors arrive.
What does he rule with regard to an Aveil ...
  1. ... wearing Tefilin on the second day?
  2. ... removing them once he has already put them on? What did Rebbi Yehudah ben Teimah say in this regard?
(a) Rava disagrees with Ula with regard to an Aveil removing his Tefilin on the *second* day once he has already put them on.
What does *he* say?

(b) How do we reconcile this with Rava himself, who ruled above like the Tana of our Mishnah, who requires three days of Aveilus? Why should Tefilin be different?

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(a) What is even a poor man who is fed from Tzedakah forbidden to do during the first three days of Aveilus?

(b) What is he permitted to do between then and the end of the Shiv'ah?

(c) What does the Tana permit a woman to do during that period?

(a) For how long is one Aveil forbidden to visit another Aveil?

(b) From then until the end of the Shiv'ah he is permitted to visit him. Where is he obligated to sit?

(a) During the first three days, an Aveil is not allowed to greet at all. What may he do ...
  1. ... between the third and the seventh days?
  2. ... from the seventh day and onwards?
(b) We just learned that all types of greeting are prohibited to an Aveil. Then how could Rebbi Akiva give Shalom to the visitors who came to eulogize his sons who had just died?

(c) We point out a discrepancy between a Beraisa which prohibits greeting an Aveil up to *thirty* days, with what we just learned, that an Aveil is permitted to greet others after *seven* days.
What makes us think that this latter prohibition will apply to the Aveil greeting others as well?

(d) How do we reconcile the two?

(a) When does one greet an Aveil and when does one comfort him?

(b) The Beraisa says that an Aveil whose wife died and who has already re-married? May one comfort him ...

  1. ... at home?
  2. ... in the street?
(a) If, as we just answered, one is not permitted to greet an Aveil until thirty days, then how can the Beraisa permit him to reply to the greetings of others (seeing as no-one greeted him).

(b) What is the difference between the way one answers someone who inadvertently greeted an Aveil *during* the first three days, and someone who greeted him *after* the first three days?

(c) When may one not greet an Aveil even after thirty days?

(d) According to the Tana Kama of the Beraisa, if someone meets an Aveil after twelve months, he comforts him without mentioning the Meis.
What does Rebbi Meir say?

(a) Based on the Tana Kama in the previous Beraisa, what does the Beraisa mean when it says that after thirty days, one does not comfort an Aveil, implying at all?

(b) Is there any difference in this regard between a father and mother after one year, and other relatived after thirty days?

(a) What will be the Din if, during the first three days of Aveilus, an Aveil joins the other Aveilim ...
  1. ... from close by? How many days of Shiv'ah will he be obligated to sit?
  2. ... from far away?
(b) What will be the Din in the former case if he arrives during the Shiv'ah *after* the third day ...
  1. ... according to the Tana Kama?
  2. ... according to Rebbi Shimon?
(c) What restriction does Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan place on the Din in 1. a. (that the Aveil joins the other Aveilim for the days that remain).
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