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Moed Katan 20

MOED KATAN 19, 20 - anonymously dedicated my an Ohev Torah and Marbitz Torah in Ramat Beit Shemesh, Israel.


(a) The Beraisa says that if someone is buried at the beginning of Yom-Tov, he must begin sitting Shiv'ah after Yom-Tov. What is the Din with regard to ...
  1. ... work done outside the house on his behalf? Is this permitted?
  2. ... work done inside the house?
  3. ... Nichum Aveilim? Will it apply after Yom-Tov?
(b) We just learned that, according to Rabah, Yom-Tov does not negate the Din of Sh'loshim (with regard to someone whose Aveilus began only on Yom-Tov).
What does this Beraisa say about that?

(c) Does this also apply to a case where the deceased was buried on Yom-Tov itself (or is it only if he was buried *before* Yom-Tov)?

(a) According to Rebbi Eliezer, someone who kept the Din of 'K'fi'as ha'Mitah for three days before Yom-Tov, does not need to continue with it after Yom-Tov.
What do the Chachamim say?

(b) This Machlokes is the equivalent of a Machlokes between Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel.
Like which of the two does ...

  1. ... Rebbi Eliezer hold?
  2. ... the Chachamim?
(c) Rava rules like the Tana of our Mishnah, who requires three days before Yom-Tov.
What is the final ruling of Ravina?
(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Amos "ve'Hafachti *Chageichem* le'Aveil"?

(b) We learn the seven days of Aveilus from "Chageichem" (referring to Sukos.
On what grounds do we not learn it from the one day of Shavu'os?

(c) Rebbi Akiva makes a distinction between a Sh'mu'ah Kerovah and a Sh'mu'ah Rechokah. The two main periods of mourning in the case of a Sh'mu'ah Kerovah comprise seven and thirty days respectively.
What is the equivalent by a Sh'mu'ah Rechokah?

(d) What do the Rabbanan of Rebbi Akiva say?

(a) Rebbi Yochanan agrees with Shmuel, that when it comes to Aveilus, we always take the lenient opinion. Consequently, he rules like Rebbi Akiva. Which other principle of Rebbi Yochanan does Shmuel's principle override?

(b) Various other Amora'im follow Rebbi Yochanan's ruling, even as regards one's father and mother. How do we reconcile this with the Beraisa, which confines the one day of a Sh'mu'ah Rechokah to the other five relatives in the Parshah, but not to one's parents?

(c) Rebbi Achaya even observed the seven and thirty days periods of mourning, for his *son*. Who is the Yachid who confines the one day mourning of a Sh'mu'ah Rechokah to the five relatives besides one's parents?

(a) How could Rav, Ayvu's son, have possibly been the son of both Rebbi Chiya's brother and his sister?

(b) What did Rav (who had just returned from Bavel) reply when Rebbi Chiya asked him whether his (Rav's) father was still alive? Why did he say that?

(c) What was Rebbi Chiya's reaction when he repeated this tactic after Rebbi Chiya asked him whether his mother still lived?

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(a) Which two Halachos do we learn from the fact that Rebbi Chiya instructed his servant to carry his clothes after him to the bathhouse immediately?

(b) Which third Halachah do we learn from Rebbi Chiya?

(a) How many days must a person mourn if he hears of his parents' demise on the thirtieth day after they died if the thirtieth day falls ...
  1. ... on Yom-Tov?
  2. ... on Shabbos?
(b) According to Rebbi Mani, he does not tear K'ri'ah either.
What objection does he raise to Rebbi Chanina, who holds that he does?

(c) If someone had no garment on which to tear K'ri'ah when he first heard the bad news, and only obtained one afterwards, in which case is he obligated to tear K'ri'ah ...

  1. ... in the case of the five relatives?
  2. ... in the case of one's parents?
(d) How will Rebbi Mani, who maintains that, whenever there is no Shiv'ah there is no K'ri'ah either, explain this latter statement?
(a) The Beraisa includes all seven relatives mentioned in the Parshah of Kohanim in the obligation to mourn.
What are the seven relatives?

(b) Rebbi Akiva initially adds three specific relatives (mi'de'Rabbanan), to the list,one male and two female. The male relative is one's maternal brother.
What are the two female ones?

(c) He also adds the Sh'niyim of the relatives forbidden by the Torah. Which three relatives does this incorporate besides one's father's father?

(d) Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar restricts this latter list to two.
Which two?

(a) The Chachamim in the previous Beraisa say 'Kol she'Misabel Alav, Misabel Imo'.
What problem do we initially have with their statement?

(b) How do we solve the problem? How do we reconcile the Chachamim's statement with the Tana Kama (Rebbi Akiva)?

(c) What did Rav say to Chiya his son, and later Rav Huna to Rabah *his* son, when their respective wives were in mourning?

(d) What did Rav Huna comment to Mar Ukva when he wanted to observe the Shiv'ah and the Sh'loshim for his brother-in-law (his wife's brother)?

(a) According to the Tana of the Beraisa, besides being obligated to overturn their beds when their respective fathers-in-law die, what is ...
  1. ... a husband not allowed to force his wife to do?
  2. ... a wife not allowed to do for her husband?
(b) How do we reconcile this Beraisa with another Beraisa which permits a wife who is in mourning to pour out wine for her husband, and to make his bed and wash his face, hands and feet?

(c) Ameimar's grandson died.
Why did he tear K'ri'ah three times?

(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Iyov "va'Yakam Iyov va'Yikra es Me'ilo"?

(b) What problem do we have with that from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "ve'Amad ve'Amar, Lo Chafatzti Lekachtah"?

(c) How do we resolve this Kashya?

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