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Moed Katan 16

MOED KATAN 16 - dedicated by Mr. Avi Berger of Queens, N.Y. in memory of his parents, Pinchas ben Reb Avraham Yitzchak, and Leah bas Michal Mordechai.


(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Korach ...
  1. ... "va'Yishlach Moshe li'K'ro le'Dasan ve'la'Aviram B'nei Eli'av"?
  2. ... "va'Yomer Moshe el Korach Atah ve'Chol Adascha"?
  3. ... "Lifnei Hashem"?
  4. ... "Atah va'Heim ve'Aharon"?
  5. ... "Machar"?
(b) What does 'Zimna Basar Zimna' mean?

(c) Is it considered Lashon ha'Ra for the Sh'li'ach Beis-Din to report the blasphemous remarks of the perpetrator?

(a) We learn the concept of a Shamta (Niduy) from the Pasuk in Shoftim "Oru Meiroz".
What do we learn from the following words "Amar Mal'ach Hashem"? To whom does that refer?

(b) We learn the concept of a Cherem from "Oru Arur".
Besides the prohibition of eating and drinking with the culprit, what else does this comprise?

(c) And what do we learn from the Pasuk "Ki Lo Ba'u le'Ezras Hashem"?

(d) Barak placed a Shamta on Meiroz with four hundred trumpets. 'Meiroz' might have been a great man.
What else might it have been?

(a) Besides declaring the property of someone who ignores the call of the Beis-Din Hefker and ostracizing him from the community, Nechemyah teaches us that Beis-Din will prevail upon him verbally, curse him, beat him, pull out his hair and bind him with an oath (if necessary). Ezra adds 'Asrinan, Kafsinan ve'Avdinan Hardafah'.
What do these mean?

(b) A person who refuses to comply with the Beis-Din is placed in Niduy immediately.
What happens ...

  1. ... in thirty days (if he persists)?
  2. ... in sixty days?
(c) Rav Chisda makes a distinction.
When does one first warn the perpetrator on Monday, Thursday and Monday, and when does one place a Niduy on him immediately? What does 'Tut Asar ve'Tut Shari' mean?

(d) A Shamta is normally effective for at least thirty days.
Under what circumstances can it be lifted earlier? Why would one want to lift it earlier anyway?

(a) The Beraisa says that if someone is Menudeh (privately) to a Rav, he is automatically Menudah to the Talmid; if he is Menudeh to the people of his town, he is automatically Menudah to the people of another town, and if he is Menudeh to the Nasi, he is automatically Menudeh to the people.
Is the reverse also true?

(b) Raban Shimon ben Gamliel (in the same Beraisa) say about a Talmid who (together with others) issued someone with a Niduy and died?

(c) Ameimar permits one Beis-Din to remove the Cherem placed by another. How does he reconcile this with Raban Shimon ben Gamliel, who just taught us that if one of the Talmidim who placed a Niduy dies, his portion is not nullified?

(d) One of the things that we initially learned from Raban Shimon ben Gamliel is that if three people place someone in Cherem, only *they* are empowered to nullify the Cherem, and not another Beis-Din of three (though Ameimar disagrees with this). What are the other two?

(a) A Niduy lasts for a minimum of thirty days. What is the minimum period of a Nezifah (a mild form of Niduy)?

(b) Where is this hinted?

(c) What was the minimum period of a Niduy in Bavel?

(d) What did Bar Kapara say that caused Rebbi to place a Nezifah on him? How did Bar Kapara discover that Rebbi had done so?

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(a) What did Rebbi learn from the Pasuk in Shir ha'Shirim (concerning the teaching of Torah) "Chamukei Yereichayich Kemo Chalayim"?

(b) Rebbi Chiya contravened Rebbi's ruling.
With which Talmidim did he learn Torah outside?

(c) On the thirtieth day of the Nezifah, Rebbi called Rebbi Chiya, but then changed his mind.
Why was that?

(d) What was Rebbi's reaction when Rebbi Chiya informed him that he had received the first message (to come), but not the second?

(a) Rebbi Chiya derived his opinion from the Pasuk in Mishlei "Chochmos ba'Chutz Taronah".
How does Rebbi interpret ...
  1. ... this Pasuk?
  2. ... the Pasuk in Yeshayah "Lo me'Rosh ba'Seiser Dibarti" (implying that Torah should be learned is public)?
(b) And how did Rebbi Chiya then interpret the Pasuk "Chamukei Yerichayich"?

(c) How do we reconcile what we learned earlier (that a Nezifah generally lasts only seven days) with the thirty days on which Rebbi insisted (on the two occasions that we just discussed)?

(d) What is the minimum period of a Nezifah in Bavel?

(a) If Shmuel was greater than Mar Ukva, why did he then sit in front of him like a disciple? How would Mar Ukva then sit?

(b) Why did Shmuel place a Nezifah on Mar Ukva?

(c) How long did Mar Ukva enact the Nezifah?

(d) Why did that woman come before Rav Nachman? What did he tell her?

(a) What problem did Zutra bar Tuvya have with the Pasuk in Shmuel 2 "ve'Eileh Divrei David ha'Acharonim"?

(b) Why did Rav Yehudah place a Nezifah on him?

(c) What were the 'first words of David' to which the Pasuk hints?

(d) Hashem was not very pleased with those first words.
How is that described in the Pasuk in Tehilim "Shigayon le'David Asher Shar la'Hashem al Divrei Kush ben Yemini"?

(a) What do Shaul, Tziporah, Tzidkiyah ha'Melech and Yisrael have in common?

(b) "Ne'um David ben Yishai, u'Ne'um ha'Gever Hukam Ol" (Shmuel 2). Which yoke did David establish?

(c) What incredible fact do we learn from the Pasuk there "Amar Elokei Yisrael ... Tzur Yisrael Moshel ba'Adam; Tzadik Moshel Yir'as Elokim"?

(a) Who was Iyra ha'Ya'iri?

(b) What is it that he used to do, and that David declined to do after his death?

(c) How did Rav explain the continuation of the Pasuk in Shmuel 2 ...

  1. ... "Tachkemoni" (in the context of the reward for David's unbelievable humility)?
  2. ... "Rosh la'Shalishim" (in the same context)?
  3. ... "Hu Adino ha'Etzni"?
(d) How many of the enemy did David kill in one time? Why did he not merit to fulfill the Pasuk "Eichah Yirdof Echad Elef"?
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