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Prepared by R. Yakov Blinder
of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) GEMARA - ELABORATION ON THE MISHNAH'S ASSERTION THAT ONLY RELATIVES DO
(a) Question: The Mishnah says that only relatives do
Keri'ah, etc. But there is a Beraisa that says that when
a rabbi dies everyone does Keri'ah, baring of the
shoulder, and the eating of the mourner's meal.
5) STORIES ABOUT RABBIS WHO DIED, AND RELEVANT LESSONS
(b) Answer: The Mishnah is talking about ordinary people, not
(c) Question: The Mishnah says that only relatives do
Keri'ah. But there is a Beraisa that one shoud weep and
mourn over any decent fellow.
(d) Answer: The Mishnah is talking about all people, not
specifically decent ones.
(e) Question: The Mishnah says that only relatives do
Keri'ah. But there is a Beraisa that says that anyone who
is present at the time of death of any Jew must do
Keri'ah, for it is not worse than seeing a Sefer Torah
destroyed (see below, 26a).
(f) Answer: The Mishnah is not dealing with the case of
someone who is present at the time of death.
(a) Rav Safra died. Lessons:
1. Not only YOUR rabbi, but any rabbi, requires Keri'ah
(b) R. Huna died. Lessons:
2. The Keri'ah need not be done at the time of death,
but all throughout the period of eulogies.
3. It should not be done except while attending the
1. It is not proper to put a Sefer Torah on the bier,
just as one should not sit on the same bed as a
Sefer Torah while he is alive.
(c) R. Chisda died. Lessons:
2. If the rabbi's bier doesn't fit through the door,
one should not pass it out through the roof (it's
disrespectful), nor should he move the deceased to a
new bier. The doorway must be widened.
3. When a body is brought from another, faraway place,
if the body is intact it is accorded full honors
(Shurah, Bircas Aveilim, consolation visits). If it
is not intact, it is not accorded these honors.
1. The Keri'ah made for a rabbi may be basted
immediately after turning back from the bier.
(d) There are also stories about the death of Rabbah Bar Huna
and Rav Hamnuna, describing the eulogy made over them,
and about the death of Ravina and his eulogy. There is a
story about R. Ashi who took offense at a eulogizer who
gave him a preview of what he would say about him.
(e) Then there is the story about Rava and the prayer he
requested Bar Avin to say at the Tigris River.
(f) Then comes the story of the tragic death of R. Chanin on
the day his firstborn son was born, and the eulogy said
(g) Then comes the story of R. Yochanan death and his eulogy.
1. One does not observe Shiv'ah or Shloshim for a
rebbi, even if it is his main rebbi.
(h) Then comes the story about R. Zeira's death and eulogy.
(i) Then the Gemara lists several rabbis who died and the
supernatural phenomena that occurred as a reaction to
their deaths. (Metaphors, perhaps - Meiri.)