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1) MINCHAS CHOTEI OF KOHANIM
(a) (Continuation of Beraisa - R. Shimon): It does not say
'V'Haysah la'Kohen ka'Minchaso', rather, "ka'Minchah"!
2) "KALIL TIHYEH"
1. Rather, the verse equates a Kohen's Minchas Chotei
to a Yisrael's - just like a Yisrael's Minchas
Chotei is Nikmetzes, also a Kohen's.
(b) Question: A different verse teaches that a Kohen may
offer his own Minchas Chotei!
2. Suggestion: A Yisrael's Minchas Chotei is Nikmetzes,
the Shirayim are eaten - perhaps the same applies to
3. Rejection: "La'Kohen ka'Minchah" - the Kohen's
Avodah is the same (it is Nikmetzes), but it is
different regarding the part that is burned;
i. The Kometz is Huktar by itself, the Shirayim
are Hukteru by themselves.
1. (Beraisa) Question: What is the source that a Kohen
may offer his own (Rashi - obligatory) Korbanos
whenever he wants (even when another Mishmar is
(c) Answer: If that was the only source, one might have
thought that it does not apply to Korbanos brought on
account of Chet.
2. Answer: "Uva b'Chol Avas Nafsho...v'Sheres".
(d) Question: "V'Chiper ha'Kohen Al ha'Nefesh ha'Shogeges
b'Chet'ah vi'Shgagah" teaches that a Kohen can offer a
Korban for his own Chet!
(e) Answer: One might have thought, that is only for Shogeg,
but not for Mezid - "V'Haysah la'Kohen ka'Minchah"
teaches, even b'Mezid.
(f) Question: What is the case of Minchas Chotei for Mezid
(normally, Chatas is only for Shogeg!)
(g) Answer: He intentionally swore Shevu'as ha'Edus falsely
(he denied knowing testimony.)
(h) (Beraisa - R. Shimon): A Kohen's Minchas Chotei is
Nikmetzes, the Kometz and Shirayim are each offered by
(i) R. Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon says, the Kometz is offered by
itself, the Shirayim are spread on Beis ha'Deshen.
(j) Question (R. Yochanan): Which Beis ha'Deshen are they
1. He cannot mean on top of the Mizbe'ach, this is like
his father (surely, in the Beraisa he comes to
(k) (R. Avin's father - Beraisa): "V'Chol Minchas Kohen Kalil
Tihyeh Lo Se'achel" - they are equated only regarding
eating. (The previous verse teaches that Chavitei Kohen
Gadol are Kalil (entirely burned on the Mizbe'ach), this
verse forbids eating Minchas Nedavah of a Kohen.
2. He cannot mean on the ground - we do not offer on
3. Suggestion (R. Aba): Perhaps (it is on the ground) -
they are not offered, they are burned like Pasul
4. People laughed at this - we do not bring a Korban in
order that it will go to waste!
(l) (Rashi Kesav Yad - This defends R. Aba - also a Kohen's
Minchas Nedavah is not eaten nor Kalil, it is offered to
go to waste! Rashi - we do not defend R. Aba, this is a
new, unrelated teaching. We must say that a Gezeras
ha'Kasuv teaches that a Kohen's Minchas Chotei goes to
(m) Question: What does this mean?
(n) Answer #1 (Abaye): "Kol Minchas Kohen...Lo Se'achel' -
even Chovos (such as Minchas Chotei) of a Kohen may not
be eaten (like Chavitim), 'Kalil Tihyeh' refers to his
(o) Objection (Rava): You cannot cut up the verses like that
(to apply the end of the verse to the beginning!
(p) Answer #2 (Rava): "V'Chol Minchas Kohen Kalil Tihyeh" -
his Nedavos, "Lo Se'achel" refers to his Chovos.
(q) Question (against both answers; Rashba - perhaps this is
only against Rava, for Abaye holds that "Kol Minchas..."
only comes to include Chovos): Perhaps we should say just
the contrary (Nedavos may not be eaten, Chovos must be
(r) Answer: It is more reasonable to learn as they did, for
Nedavos are like Chavitim - both (can or do) come every
day, they are not on account of Chet, and have a nice
smell (they have oil and Levonah; alternatively,
regarding them it says "Re'ach Nicho'ach");
(s) Question: We should say that Chovos are like Chavitim -
both cannot be more than one Isaron and are obligatory!
(t) Answer: There are more similarities of Nedavos to
(a) Question: How do Chachamim (who say that Minchas Kohanim
is not Nikmetzes) expound?
(b) Answer (Beraisa) The first verse teaches that Chavitei
Kohen Gadol are Kalil, the latter forbids eating Minchas
Nedavah of a Kohen;
1. Question: What is the source to apply to each of
these laws (Kalil and a Lav against eating) to the
(c) Question (Ravina): If a Kohen ate Eimurim, what is the
2. Answer: We learn from a Gezerah Shavah "Kalil-Kalil"
- just like Kalil of Chavitim is "Taktar (entirely
Huktar)", also that of Nedavah; just like a Lav
forbids eating Chavitim, also regarding Nidvas
1. It is clear to me that he transgressed the Lav
forbidding a Zar to eat Kodshei Kodoshim (since he
is forbidden to eat them, it is as if he is a Zar);
3) THINGS TOTALLY FOR THE "MIZBE'ACH" OR FOR "KOHANIM"
2. Does he transgress "Kalil Tihyeh"?
(d) Answer (Rav Aharon - Beraisa): Whenever it says "Kalil
Tihyeh", a Lav forbids eating it.
(a) (Mishnah): Minchas Kohanim, Chavitei Kohen Gadol and
Minchas Nesachim are totally Kalil on the Mizbe'ach,
Kohanim do not receive any part of them;
4) "MATANOS" OF OIL
1. Regarding these, the Mizbe'ach has greater Ko'ach
(privileges) than Kohanim;
(b) Shtei ha'Lechem and Lechem ha'Panim are totally eaten by
Kohanim, no part of them goes on the Mizbe'ach;
1. Regarding these, Kohanim have greater Ko'ach than
(c) (Gemara) Questions: There are other things that are
totally for the Mizbe'ach!
1. Question #1: Olah is Kalil on the Mizbe'ach!
(d) Question: It says '*Regarding these*', the Mizbe'ach has
greater Ko'ach - what do we learn from these words?
2. Answer: Its skin is given to Kohanim.
3. Question #2: Olas ha'Of is Kalil on the Mizbe'ach!
4. Answer: Its innards and the attached feathers are
not put on the Mizbe'ach.
5. Question #3: Nesachim (of wine) go entirely on the
6. Answer: They are poured through the Shitin (conduits
in the Mizbe'ach through which Nesachim are poured,
the Mizbe'ach does not consume the wine.)
(e) Answer #1: This teaches unlike Shmuel:
1. (Shmuel): Nedavos of wine are sprinkled on the fire
on the Mizbe'ach. (According to Shmuel, the
Mizbe'ach also has greater Ko'ach regarding Nedavos
(f) Answer #2: This supports a different teaching of Shmuel:
2. Our Tana holds that all wine is poured through the
Shitin. (Shmuel is not refuted, for perhaps our Tana
is like R. Yehudah, who forbids Davar she'Eino
Miskaven (wine partially extinguishes the fire on
the Mizbe'ach), but R. Shimon (who permits Davar
she'Eino Miskaven) would say that Nedavos of wine go
on the fire.)
1. (Shmuel): Kemitzah is taken (and Huktar) from
Nedavos of oil, Kohanim eat the Shirayim. (Our Tana
cannot hold that oil is totally Huktar, for then the
Mizbe'ach would have greater Ko'ach regarding
Nedavos of oil.)
(g) (Mishnah): Shtei ha'Lechem and Lechem ha'Panim...
(h) Questions: There are other things that are totally eaten
1. Question #1: Chatas ha'Of is totally eaten by
(i) Question: It says '*Regarding these*', Kohanim have
greater Ko'ach - what do we learn from these words?
2. Answer: The blood is sprinkled on the Mizbe'ach.
3. Question #2: Kohanim eat the Log of oil of a
Metzora, none goes on the Mizbe'ach!
4. Answer: They do not eat all of it, some of it is
sprinkled towards the Heichal, some is put on the
ear, thumb and toe of the Metzora.
(j) Answer: This argues with the opinion that when Shtei
ha'Lechem are brought by themselves (without Kivsei
Atzeres), they are burned;
1. Our Tana holds that Kohanim always eat Shtei
ha'Lechem (i.e. even in this case.)
(a) (Mishnah): All Menachos that are cooked in a Kli Shares
require three Matanos of oil - Yetzikah (putting on oil
after they are cooked), for Belilah (mixing the Soles
with oil) and oil is put in the Kli before the Soles.
(b) Rebbi says, after the Minchah is baked into Chalos, they
are (crumbed and) Belulos (mixed) with oil;
(c) Chachamim say, Belilah is done while it is Soles (before
(d) Chalos (Rashi - of Ma'afe Tanur; Shitah Mekubetzes - of
all Menachos) require Belilah, Rekikim require Meshichah
(oil is spread on them).
(e) Meshichah is done like 'Chai' (this will be explained),
the rest of the oil is eaten by Kohanim.
(f) (Gemara) Question: ('All Menachos that are cooked in a
Kli') - what does this come to exclude?
(g) Answer (Rav Papa): It excludes Ma'afe Tanur (the Tana
does not consider the Tanur to be a Kli Shares.)
(h) (Beraisa): "V'Im Minchas Marcheshes Korbanecha Soles
ba'Shemen Te'aseh" - this teaches that (flour is added
after) oil is put in the Kli;
1. A Gezerah Shavah "Korbanecha-Korbanecha" teaches
that Minchas Machavas also requires oil in the Kli;
2. We also learn Marcheshes from Machavas to require
Yetzikah and Belilah.