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Kidushin 81

KIDUSHIN 81 (7 Av) - has been dedicated to the memory of Dr. Simcha Bekelnitzky (Simcha Gedalya ben Shraga Feibush) of Queens N.Y., by his wife and daughters. G-dfearing and knowledgeable, Simcha was well known in the community for his Chesed and Tzedakah. He will long be remembered.


(a) On what grounds does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav confine the Din in our Mishnah (permitting a woman to seclude herself with two men) to when they are in town? What will be the Din when they are on a journey?

(b) Do we have proof for Rav Yehudah Amar Rav from the Mishnah in Sotah, which requires two Talmidei-Chachamim to accompany the Sotah and her husband (totaling three) to Yerushalayim?

(c) How did Rav Yehudah respond when Rav suggested that they hurry to overtake the woman who was walking in front of them on the way?

(d) What did Rav reply?

(a) What does Rav mean when he says ...
  1. ... Malkin al ha'Yichud?
  2. ... ve'Ein Osrin al ha'Yichud?
(b) And what does Rav Ashi mean when he restricts this to the Yichud of a Penuyah, but not to that of a married woman?

(c) But what are we worried about? Had she been guilty, Beis-Din would have sentenced her to death (and not Malkos)?

(a) Rav Nachman from Farhatya asked Rav Ashi why he did not do like Mar Zutra, who used to administer Malkos even to married women, only he would first announce that the Malkos was for the Yichud, and not for having committed adultery.
What was his reply?

(b) What does Rav extrapolate from the Pasuk in Shmuel "Al Banai Ki Lo Tovah ha'Shemu'ah"?

(c) What did ...

  1. ... Rabah say about Yichud with a married woman if her husband is in town?
  2. ... Rav Yosef say if the front door of the house is open to the main street?
(d) In that case, why, after they had eaten, when his hosts, Rav Yosef and his wife descended from the attic, did Rav Bibi instruct them to remove the ladder leading from the attic to the house?
(a) Rav Kahana rules that if the men are in the outer room and the women, in the inner room, there is no Isur Yichud.
Why not?

(b) Why is there an Isur Yichud in the reverse case?

(c) The Beraisa says precisely the opposite.
On what grounds is the Tana ...

  1. ... concerned about Yichud when the men are in the outer room and the women, in the inner room?
  2. ... not concerned about Yichud in the reverse case?
(d) How did Abaye therefore rule in the above cases?
(a) Why did Abaye used to place jars of wine whenever there was a large gathering of men and women?

(b) What did Rava used to place instead of jars of wine?

(c) In which regard did Abaye consider the Shabbos during Yom-Tov the worst time of year?

(a) What happened when they brought a group of female captives to Neherda'a and placed them in the care of Rav Amram, who took charge of seeing that they were redeemed?

(b) Why did he call out 'Fire! Fire!'? Considering they had removed the ladder leading up to the attic, how did he manage to climb up at all?

(c) What did Rav Amaram reply when the Rabbanan accused him of embarrassing them?

(d) What did he mean when he said 'See, you are fire and I am flesh; yet I am stronger than you'? To whom was he speaking?

(a) Why did the Satan disguise himself as a woman passing by on the other side of the River for Rebbi Meir and on top of a date-palm for Rebbi Akiva?
What had they both done in common to bring about such a reaction?

(b) Both of them went to great lengths to reach the respective women.
What did they do?

(c) On what grounds did the Satan stop short of making them sin?

(a) What did ...
  1. ... P'limu say that caused the Satan to teach him a lesson?
  2. ... the Satan do on Erev Yom Kipur ?
(b) What was the Satan's complaint when P'limu ...
  1. ... brought him bread to the door?
  2. ... took him inside and gave him a place to eat?
(c) Why did P'limu need ...
  1. ... to tell him to sit nicely?
  2. ... to scold him?
(d) What happened after the Satan ...
  1. ... pretended to drop dead?
  2. ... went to see P'limu in the bathroom? What did he tell P'limu to say in future?
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(a) What did Rebbi Chiya bar Ashi used to say whenever he fell on his face to say Tachanun?

(b) On what grounds did his wife object to this?

(c) What did ...

  1. ... she subsequently do?
  2. ... he subsequently do?
(d) How did his wife manage to convince him that, even though he meant to sin, he had not in fact, done so?
(a) Seeing as Rebbi Chiya bar Ashi had not sinned, why did he proceed to fast until his death?

(b) The source for this is the Pasuk in Matos "Iyshah Haferam, va'Hashem Yislach Lah". Which case is the Pasuk referring to?

(c) Why did Rebbi Akiva weep whenever he arrived at ...

  1. ... this Pasuk?
  2. ... the Pasuk in Vayikra "ve'Lo Yada ve'Asheim, ve'Nasa Avono"?
(d) What did Isi ben Yehudah comment on this Pasuk?
(a) Rav Yehudah Amar Rav said 'Misyached Adam im Achoso, ve'Dor Im Imo ve'Im Bito'.
Why did he change the Lashon from 'Misyached' in the Reisha to 'Dor' in the Seifa?

(b) How do we reconcile Shmuel, who forbids Yichud with all Arayos, with our Mishnah, which explicitly permits Yichud with a daughter and a mother?

(c) The Beraisa permits Yichud with Arayos only when there are witnesses. That is what Rebbi Meir meant when he instructed his family to ensure that he was not Misyached with his daughter.
What did Rebbi Tarfon instruct his family?

(d) What happened to that Talmid who laughed at Rebbi Tarfon?

(a) Based on Shmuel, who forbids Yichud even with animals, what did Abaye used to do ...
  1. ... when he walked in the fields to review his learning undisturbed (according to one explanation)?
  2. ... with regard to the shepherds (according to the other one)?
(b) And what did Rav Sheishes used to do?

(c) What did Rav Kahana reply when Rav Chanan from Neherda'a asked him why he permitted an animal to remain in the room whilst he learned? (d) Why does Rava permit Yichud with ...

  1. ... two Yevamos, two Tzaros, a woman and her mother-in-law, a woman and mother-in-law's daughter and a woman and her husband's daughter? What do all of these have in common?
  2. ... a woman and a little girl? How little must she be for this concession to apply?
(a) According to Rav Acha bar Rav Aza Amar Rav Asi, the age of 'Higdilu' in our Mishnah (where a daughter sleeping with her father and a son with his mother, must be covered, is nine (some say three) and twelve respectively. What does the second Lashon say?

(b) How do we qualify the ages of a girl le'Kula, according to both opinions?

(c) What is the basis of the Machlokes with regard to hair?

(d) How does Rafram bar Papa Amar Rav Chisda qualify Rav Asi's statement le'Chumra?

(a) What did Rav Acha bar Aba, who took Rav Chisda's little daughter into bed with him, accuse her father of having contravened, when he told her that she was betrothed?

(b) Rav Chisda retorted with a counter accusation based on a ruling of Shmuel.
Which ruling?

(c) Rav Acha bar Aba retorted that he held like another ruling of Shmuel. Which ruling?

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