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Kidushin 80

KIDUSHIN 77-80 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi publications for these Dafim for the benefit of Klal Yisrael.


(a) What distinction does Resh Lakish make regarding the Din of relying on the children of the man who came from overseas clinging to their mother.
When do we ...
  1. ... rely on it?
  2. ... not rely on it?
(b) What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

(c) Rebbi Yochanan follows his own reasoning elsewhere.
What does Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan say re. administering Malkos and even Sekilah on the basis of a Chazakah? What has that got to do with Yuchsin?

(d) In which area does Rebbi Yochanan nevertheless limit the power of Chazakah?

(a) 'Malkin al ha'Chazakos' refers to a statement of Rav Yehudah, and 'Soklin ve'Sorfin al ha'Chazakos', to a statement of Rabah bar Rav Huna. In which case does Rav Yehudah say 'Ba'alah Lokeh Alehah Mishum Nidah'?

(b) What does Rabah bar Rav Huna mean when he says 'Ish ve'Ishah, Tinok ve'Tinokes she'Higdilu be'Soch ha'Bayis, Niskalin Zeh al Zeh, ve'Nisrafin Zeh al Zeh'?

(c) Which incident did Rebbi Shimon ben Pazi Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi quoting bar Kapara relate about a woman who came to Yehrushalayim with her son riding on her shoulders? What is his punchline?

(a) We learned earlier that according to Rebbi Yochanan, one does not burn Terumah on the basis of a Chazakah.
What does Resh Lakish say?

(b) The Mishnah in Taharos cites Rebbi Meir, who rules that, if a child is playing beside a large dough, a piece of which he is found to be holding in his hand, the large piece of dough is Tahor.
On what basis do the Rabbanan declare it Tamei (despite the Chezkas Taharah of the dough)?

(c) On what grounds does Rebbi Meir disagree?

(d) In which point then, do the Rabbanan argue? What is their bone of contention?

(a) How do Resh Lakish Mishum Rebbi Oshaya and Rebbi Yochanan respectively, interpret the Rabbanan's ruling 'Metam'in'?

(b) What is the major Halachic difference between a dead frog and a dead toad?

(c) What does the Tana of the Beraisa say about a large dough in a house which is infested with frogs and toads, and the dough contains small pieces of one or the other (we do not know which)?

(d) What ruling does Rebbi Yochanan issue there in a case where the house contains a majority of toads? What is the problem with that ruling?

(a) How do we resolve the discrepancy between Rebbi Yochanan's two rulings regarding burning Terumah on the basis of a Chazakah?

(b) How do we know that in his Machlokes with Resh Lakish, Rebbi Yochanan is right?

(a) In the Beraisa that supports Rebbi Yochanan, what does the Tana remark about the above-mentioned case of the child playing beside a dough? Why ought the dough to have otherwise been Tahor, even if there were a majority of toads (and even in the Reshus ha'Yachid)?

(b) In a second ruling. the Tana of the Beraisa discusses the Din re. a dough inside a house.
What is the significance of the chickens and the Tamei liquid? What leads us to believe that the dough is probably Tamei?

(a) How does Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi qualify the current ruling of the Beraisa, depending on the color of the liquid?

(b) On what grounds do we query this leniency?

(c) Rebbi Yochanan (who concedes that Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi was the Gadol ha'Dor), maintains that he did not grasp the reasoning behind the distinction.
How does *he* therefore limit the qualification?

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(a) The Tana Kama of our Mishnah prohibits Yichud (the seclusion of a man and a woman in an enclosed area) even one man with two women.
What is the Din re. one woman with two men? Why the difference?

(b) What does Rebbi Shimon say (see Hagahos ha'Gra)?

(c) Our Mishnah also permits a young boy to sleep with his mother, and a man with his young daughter.
What does he say in the event that they are 'grown up' (which will be explained later)?

(a) How does Rebbi Yochanan extrapolate Yichud from the Pasuk in Shoftim (in connection with a Meisis) "Ki Yesischa Achicha ben Imecha"?

(b) How does Abaye explain the Torah's choice of Lashon in the context of Meisis?

(a) How does one bury a baby that died within thirty days? How many people are required for the ceremony?

(b) In this context, the Tana Kama of the Beraisa permits one woman and two men, but forbids one man and two women (as we just learned in our Mishnah). What does Aba Shaul say?

(c) How do we reconcile Aba Shaul with our Mishnah?

(d) The Rabbanan disagree because they concur with Rebbi Yitzchak.
How does Rebbi Yitzchak interpret the Pasuk in Eichah "Mah Yis'onen Adam Chai, Gever al Chata'av"?

(a) How does Aba Shaul explain the Pasuk "Mah Yis'onen ... "?

(b) The Rabbanan counter this with an incident which actually took place. Which incident?

(c) Alternatively, it is not the Rabbanan who respond with an incident, but Aba Shaul, who proves his point with an incident that is cited in Mo'ed Katan, about a woman whose first child died.
Which incident?

(a) What does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav, backed by an incident that actually occurred, say about concession of more than one man secluding themselves with one woman? What was the incident?

(b) What does Rav Yosef prove from the fact that sometimes, heavy beams are stolen?

(c) We learned in the Mishnah in Sotah that the Beis-Din would send two Talmidei-Chachamim with a man taking his Sotah wife to Yerushalayim.
Why did they do that?

(d) Why can we not infer from there that ordinary people are not eligible, in keeping with Rav Yehudah Amar Rav's statement? Why is this Mishnah not a proof for Rav Yehudah Amar Rav?

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