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Kidushin 77

KIDUSHIN 77-80 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi publications for these Dafim for the benefit of Klal Yisrael.


(a) The Tana of our Mishnah states 'bas Chalal Zachar Pesulah min ha'Kehunah Le'olam'.
What does 'Le'olam' mean?

(b) Why does the Tana deem it necessary to stress 'Le'olam'? What might we otherwise have thought?

(c) What will be the status of that daughter's child from ...

  1. ... a Yisrael?
  2. ... a Kohen?
(a) Rebbi Yehudah invalidates the daughter of a Ger, like the daughter of a Chalal.
What does he say about the daughter of a Giyores who married a Yisrael?

(b) What does Rebbi Eliezer ben Ya'akov say? When is the daughter of a Ger Pasul li'Kehunah according to him?

(c) Up to how many generations do a Ger and an Eved Meshuchrar remain Pasul li'Kehunah, according to the above respective opinions?

(d) Rebbi Yossi is more lenient still.
What does he say?

(a) In what connection does Rebbi Yochanan quote the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' of Rebbi Shimon in a Beraisa "ve'Lo Yechalel Zar'o be'Amav" and "Lo Yitama Ba'al be'Amav" (both in Emor, the latter concerning Tum'as Kohanim?

(b) How does he learn it from there?

(c) In that case, why is the daughter of ...

  1. ... a Kohen Gadol and an Almanah Pasul?
  2. ... their son Pasul (in spite of the 'Gezeirah-Shavah')?
(d) Then why is his daughter's daughter Kasher?
(a) Having taught 'bas Chalal Zachar Pasul', why does the Tana repeat 'Chalal she'Nasa bas Yisrael, Bito Pesulah li'Kehunah'?

(b) The Tana of our Mishnah does not hold like Rebbi Dustai ben Yehudah. What does he say?

(c) How does he extrapolate this from the Pasuk "ve'Lo Yechalel Zar'o be'Amav"?

(a) Seeing as the Torah only invalidates the daughter of a Kohen Gadol to an Almanah, from where does the Tana of the Beraisa initially learn that the Almanah herself becomes a Chalalah too?

(b) Why can we not refute this 'Kal va'Chomer from the Kohen Gadol, who does not become a Chalal?

(c) What are the ramifications of the fact that ...

  1. ... the Almanah does become a Chalalah?
  2. ... the Kohen Gadol does not?
(d) We refute the current 'Kal va'Chomer' on the grounds that whereas the daughter was born through an sin, the Almanah was not.
So from where do we finally learn that the Almanah becomes a Chalalah too?
(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei (written in connection with a divorcee who has been married to someone else) "To'evah Hi"?

(b) What do we extrapolate from there with re. to the Beraisa 'Eizuhi Chalalah, Kol she'Noldah min ha'Pesulim'?

(c) So how does Rav Yehudah then explain the Beraisa?

(d) Considering that an Almanah le'Kohen Gadol and a Gerushah and a Zonah to a Kohen Hedyot are also Chalalim, how does Rabah explain the expression 'Kol she'Noldah min ha'Pesulim'? What does he mean by 'Chalalah Muzkeres'?

(a) The Beraisa states 'Almanah, Almanah, Almanah Eino Chayav Ela Achas', and the same applies to Gerushah, Gerushah, Gerushah'. What does the Tana say in a case of "Almanah, u'Gerushah, va'Chalalah Zonah" (as they appear in the Pasuk in Emor)?

(b) What will be the case?

(c) Why can 'Almanah, Almanah, Almanah' not mean that the Kohen Gadol had relations with the Almanos of three different men?

(d) So we suggest that it means that he had relations with one Almanah three times.
Why is this too, impossible? Why can it not be referring to ...

  1. ... three Bi'os but only one warning?
  2. ... three Bi'os and three warnings?
Answers to questions



(a) How do we finally establish the Beraisa 'Almanah, Almanah, Almanah Eino Chayav Ela Achas'? What is the Chidush?

(b) The Tana of the Beraisa cannot hold 'Isur Chal al Isur, otherwise the four names (Almanah, u'Gerushah, va'Chalalah Zonah) would take effect irrespective of the order in which they occurred.
Then on what grounds do they take effect, even in the right order?

(c) In which way is ...

  1. ... a Gerushah 'Mosif' on an Almanah?
  2. ... a Chalalah 'Mosif' on a Gerushah?
  3. ... a Zonah 'Mosif' on a Chalalah?
(a) The Beraisa expert quoted a Beraisa in front of Rav Sheishes. What is the Tana referring to there when he states 'Kol she'Hu be'Yikach', Harei Hu be'Lo Yikach'?

(b) Rebbi Shimon in another Beraisa exempts someone who eats Neveilah on Yom Kipur from a Chatas.
What do the Rabbanan say?

(c) How do we reconcile the Rabbanan in the latter Beraisa with the Beraisa quoted by the Beraisa expert?

(d) On what basis does the second Lashon ...

  1. ... attempt to establish the former Beraisa *specifically* like the Rabbanan and not like Rebbi Shimon?
  2. ... finally reconcile it even with Rebbi Shimon?
(a) Rav Papa asked Abaye whether if a Yisrael has relations with his sister, besides making her a Zonah, he also makes her a Chalalah.
What is his reason for thinking ...
  1. ... that he does?
  2. ... that he does not?
(b) What did Abaye reply?

(c) Rava derives this from a Beraisa.
What does the Tana learn from the fact that the Torah repeats the Din of a Gerushah by a Kohen Gadol (even though we already know it from a Kohen Hedyot)?

(d) Why can it not be coming to teach us that one is Chayav on the *Gerushah* by a Kohen Gadol independently?

(a) What does the Tana learn from the fact that the Torah repeats by Kohen Gadol ...
  1. ... Chalalah?
  2. ... Zonah (from the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "Zonah" "Zonah"?
(b) What does Rav Ashi therefore conclude re. a Kohen who has relations with his unmarried sister ...
  1. ... the first time?
  2. ... the second time?
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