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Kidushin 53

KIDUSHIN 51-55 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi publications for these Dafim for the benefit of Klal Yisrael.

1) Rebbi Yochanan maintains that they took a count there and then (in Rebbi Yehudah's presence), and decided by a majority vote that 'ha'Mekadesh be'Chelko ... , Einah Mekudeshes'.
What does Rav say?


(a) What does the Tana of the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Tzav "ve'Chol Minchah Asher Te'aseh ba'Tanur ... le'Chol B'nei Aharon Tihyeh"?

(b) From a series of extra Pesukim in the Parshah we extend this Halachah across the board (as we shall now see). What alternative did a Korban Olah ve'Yored offer a poor man who could not afford to bring a Korban Beheimah?

(c) Why might we have thought that the Kohanim are permitted to swap ...

  1. ... Menachos against Ofos (Why could we not learn this from the prohibition of swapping Menachos against Zevachim)?
  2. ... Ofos against Zevachim? (Why could we not learn this from the prohibition of swapping Menachos against Ofos)?
(d) What would we still have thought the Kohanim are permitted to swap (even once we know that they cannot swap Ofos against Zevachim)?
(a) Why is a Korban Beheimah called a 'Zevach', and a Korban Of not?

(b) What is the difference between a Minchah al ha'Machavas and a Minchas Marcheshes?

(c) May a Kohen swap his portion in one Minchah al ha'Machavas for another (or one Minchas Marcheshes for another)?

(d) From the Pasuk "Ish ke'Achiv" we extend the prohibition of swapping one's portion in one Korban for another to all Kodshei Kodshim.
What do we learn from ...

  1. ... the Semichus "Ish ke'Achiv ... Im al Todah"?
  2. ... the word "Ish"?
(a) The Beraisa currently under discussion is a Sifra.
Who is the author of a S'tam Sifra?

(b) What does Abaye therefore prove from this Beraisa?

(a) In what way was the Lechem ha'Panim blessed as long as Shimon ha'Tzadik lived?

(b) What does the Tana of the Beraisa say about the Lechem ha'Panim (after Shimon ha'Tzadik's death)? What would the Tzenu'im and the Gargeranim do when it came to the distribution?

(c) How did Rava try to counter from this Beraisa, Abaye's proof from the previous Beraisa that Rebbi Yehudah conceded to Rebbi Meir (that ha'Mekadesh be'Chelko, Einah Mekudeshes')? How did he interpret 've'ha'Gargeranim Cholkim'?

(d) Who said that the author is Rebbi Yehudah?

(a) How do we refute Rava's interpretation? How do we prove the latter interpretation from the Seifa?

(b) What nickname did they ascribe to that Kohen for the rest of his life?

(c) What did Rabah bar Rav Shiloh learn from the Pasuk in Tehilim "Elokai Paltani mi'Yad Rasha mi'Kaf Me'avel *ve'Chometz*", and Rabah from the Pasuk in Yeshayah "Limdu Heitev, Dirshu Mishpat, Ishru Chamotz"?

(a) What does Rav Acha Brei de'Rava in the name of the Gemara (traditionally) learn from the Pasuk in Bechukosai "ve'Chol Ma'asar ha'Aretz mi'Zera ha'Aretz ... la'Hashem Hu Kodesh la'Hashem"? Whose opinion is he out to prove?

(b) If a Kohen (or a Yisrael who inherited from a Kohen) betroths a woman with Terumas Ma'aser, with Chalah, with Shevi'is or with Terumah, she is Mekudeshes.
In light of what we just said, how do we explain this with re. to ...

  1. ... Terumas Ma'aser, considering that the Torah writes in Korach "Kein Tarimu Gam Atem Terumas *Hashem"*?
  2. ... Chalah, considering that the Torah writes in Sh'lach Lecha "Yitnu *la'Hashem*"?
  3. ... Shevi'is, where the Torah writes in Behar "Ki Yovel Hi *Kodesh* Tihyeh Lachem"?
  4. ... Terumah, where the Navi Yirmiyah writes ... "*Kodesh* Yisrael *la'Hashem*, Reishis Tevu'aso"? How do we answer this initially?
(c) On what grounds do we refute this answer?

(d) On account of this Kashya, we change the words of Rebbi Meir's source.
From which words does he learn that Ma'aser Sheini belongs to Hashem?

Answers to questions



(a) What problem do Shigegas Ma'aser according to Rebbi Yehudah and Shigegas Hekdesh according to Rebbi Meir, have in common?

(b) Rebbi Ya'akov heard each one's reason from Rebbi Yochanan, but did not know which was which.
What are the two reasons?

(c) What is the practical difference between them?

(a) Rebbi Yirmiyah worked out of his own volition which is which. According to him, the woman would not have agreed to be betrothed with Ma'aser, because of the trouble of taking it to Yerushalayim.
Why would the man ...
  1. ... not have minded betrothing her with Ma'aser (had he known that it was Ma'aser)?
  2. ... as well as the woman, have minded betrothing her with Hekdesh (had he known that it was Hekdesh)?
(b) How did Rebbi Ya'akov react to Rebbi Yirmiyah's explanation?

(c) According to Rebbi Ya'akov, even the man would have objected to betrothing her with Ma'aser Sheini because of 'Unsa de'Urcha'.
What does he mean by that, assuming that ...

  1. ... he gave her fruit to the value of one Perutah?
  2. ... he gave her a large amount of fruit?
(d) And on what grounds would he not have minded betrothing her with Hekdesh?
(a) Rava asked Rav Chisda whether the Hekdesh money goes out to Chulin.
According to whom is he asking his?

(b) What are the ramifications of Rava's She'eilah?

(c) What was Rav Chisda's reply?

(d) Rav Chiya bar Avin asked Rav Chisda whether the same applies to a sale.
What was his reply?

(a) According to Rav Chisda's interpretation of Rebbi Meir, how is a person Mo'el by money of Hekdesh?

(b) The Mishnah in Me'ilah discusses a case where the treasurer of Hekdesh inadvertently gave money of Hekdesh to someone to look after.
What will be the Din if he gave money that was wrapped to a storekeeper or to a private individual, and either of them used it? Who would be Mo'el?

(c) And what will be the Din if he gave loose money ...

  1. ... to a storekeeper?
  2. ... to a private individual?
(a) Rebbi Meir says 'Chenvani ke'Ba'al ha'Bayis'.
What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(b) What is a 'Shulchani'?

(c) We can extrapolate from Rebbi Meir that Me'ilah does pertain to spending money of Hekdesh.
How do we reconcile this with Rav Chisda, who says that it does not?

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