REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Kidushin 48
KIDUSHIN 48 - has been dedicated by the Feldman family in honor of the
Yahrzeit of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Nishmaso b'Ginzei Meromim (3 Tamuz).
(a) We just established that neither Rebbi Meir ('Hiskadshi Li bi'Sh'tar
Chov ... Mekudeshes') nor the Rabbanan ('Einah Mekudeshes') hold like Rebbi
('Osiyos Niknos bi'Mesirah'), that they both hold like Rav Papa ('Tzarich
Lemichtav K'ni Lach Hu ve'Chol Shibudei'), and that they argue over Shmuel's
Din ('ha'Mocher Sht'ar Chov la'Chaveiro, ve'Chazar u'Machlo, Machul').
Might it be possible for Rebbi Meir to hold like Shmuel, and still to rule
(b) Their Machlokes by Milveh al Peh concerns Rav Huna Amar Rav.
Rav Huna say re. 'Ma'amad Sheloshtan'?
(c) What is then the Machlokes between Rebbi Meir and the Chachamim?
(a) 'Hiskadshi Li bi'Shtar, Rebbi Meir Omer Einah Mekudeshes, ve'Rebbi
Elazar Omer Mekudeshes'.
What do the Chachamim say?
(b) Does it make any difference whether the paper is worth a Perutah or not,
according to ...
(c) Why could the Tana of the Beraisa not be speaking about a Sh'tar Chov of
others? What problem would that create with Rebbi Meir?
- ... Rebbi Meir?
- ... Rebbi Elazar?
(d) So how do we initially try to establish the Beraisa? What do we try and
prove with that?
(a) Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak therefore establishes the Beraisa by a Sh'tar
Kidushin without witnesses.
What is then the basis of the Machlokes
between Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Elazar?
(b) What does 'Karsi' mean?
(c) And what is the reasoning behind the Chachamim's ruling?
(d) What will they hold if the paper is not worth a Perutah?
(a) Alternatively, they argue over Resh Lakish's She'eilah re. a Sh'tar
Kidushin that was written she'Lo Lishmah.
What are the two sides of the
She'eilah? Why might it be ...
(b) How did Resh Lakish himself resolve the She'eilah?
- ... Pasul?
- ... Kasher?
(c) Alternatively, they both hold like Resh Lakish.
What then is the basis
of their Machlokes?
(d) This too, is a Machlokes Amora'im.
What is the reason ...
- ... of Rava and Ravina who validate such a Sh'tar Kidushin?
- ... of Rav Papa and Rav Sh'ravya who declare it void?
(a) If a woman asks a man to betroth her with the Shirin, Nezamin
ve'Taba'os that he makes her, Rebbi Meir in a Beraisa validates the Kidushin
as soon as they are completed.
What are ...
(b) What do the Chachamim say?
- ... Shirin?
- ... Nezamin?
- ... Taba'os?
(c) When the Chachamim say 'Ad she'Yagi'a Mamon le'Yadah', why can they not
be referring to the finished product?
(a) Assuming that they mean other money, how do we try to establish the
Answers to questions
(b) What is the loan in this case?
(c) What are we trying to prove with this?
(d) How do we initially establish both opinions like Rav? How else might we
explain Rebbi Meir, who says Mekudeshes?
(a) We just established the Machlokes between Rebbi Meir and the Chachamim
by whether the Sechirus only falls due at the end, or whether the hirer
becomes obligated Perutah by Perutah. We subsequently suggest that both
Tana'im might even hold ...
(b) The Tana Kama of another Beraisa differentiates between a man who
betroths a woman 'bi'S'char she'Asisi Imach' and 'bi'S'char she'E'eseh
- ... the latter possiblity and ha'Mekadesh be'Milveh Einah Mekudeshes.
What then, is the basis of their Machlokes? What sort of craftsman are they arguing about?
- ... that the craftsman does not acquire the vessel that he has made.
What is then the basis of their Machlokes?
Why does he say ...
(c) Why does Rebbi Nasan then say that even in the latter case, she is not
- ... 'bi'S'char she'Asisi Imach, Einah Mekudeshes'?
- ... 'bi'S'char she'E'eseh Imach, Mekudeshes'?
(d) After agreeing with the statement of Rebbi Nasan, Rebbi adds 've'Im
sHosif Lah Nofach mi'Shelo, Mekudeshes'.
What does Rebbi Nasan hold?
(a) According to the Tana of our Mishnah, what will be the Din if a man
promises to betroth a woman with wine, with a golden Dinar or on condition
that he is rich, and it turns out to be honey, silver or that he is poor, or
(b) What does Rebbi Shimon say? Which case in the Mishnah is he referring
(a) If a man says 'Hiskadshi Li be'Kos Zeh', one Beraisa rules 'Bo u'Vameh
What does he mean by that?
(b) A second Beraisa says 'Bo ve'Lo Bameh she'Besocho'.
What does a third
(c) How do we reconcile the three Tana'im? In which case do we say ...
- ... 'Bo u'Vameh she'Besocho'?
- ... 'Bo ve'Lo Bameh she'Besocho'?
- ... 'Bameh she'Besocho ve'Lo Bo'?
(a) What does the Beraisa rule re. a man who paid money for vinegar and it
turns out to be wine?
(b) Why does this pose a problem on Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah?
(a) Abaye tries to resolve this problem. He explained to his son that the
Machlokes between the Tana Kama and Rebbi Shimon concerns a Sheli'ach.
What is the case? What is then the basis of their Machlokes?
(b) What is the problem with Abaye's explanation from the word ...
(c) What third Kashya do we ask from 'be'Dinar Zeh shel Kesef ve'Nimtza shel
- ... 'Hiskadshi *Li*'?
- ... '*Hit'ah* li'Sh'vach'?
(d) Rava resolves the problem together with Rebbi Chiya bar Avin.
title did he confer upon the latter?
(a) In fact, Rava's answer agrees in principle with that of Abaye.
Answers to questions
the difference between the two answers?
(b) How does Rava then explain the statement 've'Nimtza shel Zahav'?