REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
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Advancement Forum, l'Iluy Nishmas Mrs. Gisela (Golda bas Reb Chaim Yitzchak
Ozer) Turkel, A"H.
(a) Rebbi learns from "Be'ulas Ba'al" that only her husband makes her a
Be'ulah through a Bi'ah she'Lo ke'Darkah, but not someone else. How does
Rebbi Zeira reconcile this with the Beraisa (which we quoted a little
earlier), where Rebbi commutes the sentence of the subsequent nine to
We just learned that Rebbi derives that a husband renders a woman a Be'ulah
(even though others don't) from "Be'ulas Ba'al".
(b) What does he learn from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei (in connection with the
rape of a Na'arah Besulah)"u'Meis ha'Ish Asher Shachav Imah Levado"?
(c) The Rabbanan (who hold that all ten receive Sekilah) explain "Levado"
like Rebbi Yonasan in a Beraisa.
What does Rebbi Yonasan learn from
(d) Rebbi Yoshiyah disputes this.
What does he learn from the Pasuk there
(in connection with the same case, but where the woman was a willing
partner) "u'Meisu Gam Sheneihem"?
From where does Rebbi
Yochanan (who derives Kidushei Bi'ah from there) learn that?
(a) One of the ramifications of the She'eilah whether it is the beginning of
Bi'ah (Ha'ara'ah) that acquires the woman or the end is, if, should she
accept Kidushin from another man between the two, the second Kidushin is
valid or not. The other one concerns a Kohen Gadol.
What is it?
(b) How does Ameimar Amar Rava resolve this She'eilah?
(c) We ask whether Bi'ah makes Nisu'in or Erusin. What are the three
ramifications of this She'eilah?
(a) The Tana of the Beraisa list the rights of a father in his daughter.
What three rights does he have over and above those concerning the Kesef,
Sh'tar and Bi'ah of her Kidushin and concerning her Get?
(b) What rights does he not have, which her husband subsequently does?
(c) Abaye attempts to prove from the fact that the Tana mentioned her
marriage, after 'Kesef, Sh'tar and Bi'ah', that Bi'ah makes Kidushin.
what grounds do we refute this proof?
(a) Rava too, tries to resolve the She'eilah from a Beraisa.
If the girl who is over three marries a Kohen, she is permitted to eat
Terumah, and if one of the Arayos has relations with her, he is Chayav even
though she is not.
does the Beraisa say 'Miskadeshes be'Bi'ah, ve'Im Ba Alehah Yavam, Kan'ah
ve'Chayavin Alehah Mishum Eishes Ish'?
(b) What does the Tana mean when he says 'u'Metamah es Bo'alah Letamei
Mishkav Tachton ke'Elyon'? For how long does he remains Tamei?
(c) In which respect is a Nidah herself more stringent in this regard?
(d) How will the Din differ if she is under three?
How do we refute Rava's proof from the fact that this
Tana too, after mentioning Bi'ah, adds 've'Im Niseis le'Kohen ... ',
implying that Bi'ah makes Eirusin.
Answers to questions
What do we learn from the Pasuk Emor ...
- ... "Kinyan Kaspo Hu Yochal Bo"?
- ... "Kol Tahor be'Veischah Yochal Oso"?
(a) ben Bag-Bag sent to Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseira querying what he had heard
in his name.
What had Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseira said?
(b) What did the latter reply? What 'Kal va'Chomer' did he learn from
(c) Why does Bi'ah with a Shifchah Cana'anis not feed her Terumah?
(d) How does Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseira explain the fact that an Arusah is
forbidden to eat Terumah?
(a) With regard to the 'Kal va'Chomer' (regarding learning an Arusah bas
Yisrael from a Shifchah Cana'anis), why can the Tana not be speaking ...
(b) So how do we attempt to establish the Beraisa? What do we prove from
- ... when both the Bi'ah and the Kesef were followed by Chupah?
- ... (according to our initially understanding) when the Bi'ah was followed by Chupah, but the Kesef was not?
(c) Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak refutes the proof by establishing the Beraisa
when the Bi'ah was followed by Chupah, but the Kesef was not. How does he
dispense with the problem that we just had with this? How can we learn a
'Kal va'Chomer' 'one from two'?
(d) How does ben Bag-Bag counter Rebbi Yehudah's 'Kal va'Chomer'? Why can
one not learn the Kinyan Kesef of an Arusah from that of a Shifchah
(a) According to Ravina, ben Bag-Bag concedes that min ha'Torah, an Arusah
bas Yisrael is permitted to eat Terumah. Then what message did he send to
Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseira? What surprised him about Rebbi Yehudah ben
Answers to questions
(b) What was Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseira's reply? What 'Kal va'Chomer did he
now learn from Shifchah?
(c) In which point does ben Bag-Bag argue with him?