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Kesuvos 69

KESUVOS 69 (4 Sivan) - This Daf is dedicated by Rabbi Kornfeld's father, Mr. David Kornfeld, to the memory of the members of his family who perished at the hands of the Rotzchim in the Holocaust and whose Yahrzeit is observed today: his mother (Mirel bas Yakov Mordechai), brothers (Shraga Feivel, Aryeh Leib and Yisachar Dov, sons of Mordecai), grandfather (Yakov Mordechai ben Rav David Spira) and aunt (Charne bas Yakov Mordechai, wife of Moshe Aryeh Cohen).


(a) Rav sent Rebbi a letter which included the She'eilah what the Din will be if the brothers mortgaged their property for their sisters Mezonos or Parnasah.
What did Rebbi reply when Rebbi Chiya asked him whether Rav was referring to property that they sold or that they designated as collateral?

(b) Why did Rav ask S'tam, why did he not specify that his She'eilah was in a case when they ...

  1. ... sold it?
  2. ... designated it as collateral?
(c) Rebbi Yochanan ruled that the daughters may claim neither Mezonos nor Parnasah from Meshubadim.
What query do we have regarding his ruling?
(a) Rebbi Yochanan said in Gitin that, if a daughter (who had a brother and an unmarried sister) married and received Isur Nechasim after her father's death, and then her brother died, her sister shares the remainder of the property with her and foregoes Isur Nechasim.
What does Rebbi Chanina say?

(b) How do we attempt to resolve our query in Rebbi Yochanan from there?

(c) We go on to reject this proof however.
Assuming that Rebbi Yochanan did indeed retract and accept Rebbi's ruling when he heard it, how do we reconcile that with his ruling there?

(d) Does this mean that whenever one of the daughters finds a precious object, she is willing to forego Isur Nechasim, as Rav Yeimar suggested?

(a) According to Ameimar, a daughter has the Din of an heir.
What ramifications does this have?

(b) What does Rav Ashi say?

(c) What story did Minyumi Brei de'Rav Nechumi relate about Ameimar from which it is evident that he retracted to hold like Rav Ashi?

(a) We ask whose creditor she is, her father's or her brothers'.
What difference does it make whether she is the creditor of the one or of the other?

(b) We resolve this She'eilah from Ravina, who claimed Beinonis without a Shevu'ah from Mar Brei de'Rav Ashi for Parnasah for his sister, after Rav Ashi's death, a proof that he considers the woman her brothers' creditor. Why did he make her take Ziburis with a Shevu'ah from the son of Rav Sama, Mar's brother?

(c) On what grounds did Rav Nechemyah Brei de'Rav Yosef instruct Rabah Bar Rav Huna to claim Isur Nechasim even from the base of the mill?

(d) Rav Kahana used to claim Isur Nechasim even from Amla de'Beisa.
What is 'Amla de'Beisa'?

(a) Why was Rav Huna angry with Rav Anan when he sent him a message urging him to claim Isur Nechasim?

(b) Rav Huna sent Rav Sheishes back to him with two She'eilos.
Why did Rav Sheishes feel compelled to appease Rav Anan? Why did he not decline to go?

(c) The first She'eilah was whether one claims Isur Nechasim from Karka or Metaltelin; the second, 'Ma'an Yasiv Bei Mirzach be'Reisha'.
How did Rav Anan react to the second She'eilah?

(d) What did Rav Sheishes tell Rav Anan after Rav Anan had related to him how he had addressed Rav Huna?

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(a) What does 'Bei Mirzach' mean?

(b) Who sits at the head in a Beis Aveil?

(c) How does ...

  1. ... Rebbi Avahu learn this from the Pasuk in Iyov "Evchar Darkam ... Ka'asher Aveilim Yenachem" (particularly bearing in mind that the Pasuk writes "Yenachem" - implying the comforters)?
  2. ... Mar Zutra learns it from the Pasuk in Amos "ve'Sar Mirzach Seruchim"?
(d) How does Rava rule with regard to Mezonos, Kesuvah and Parnasah? Can these be claimed from Metaltelin?
(a) If a man appoints a trustee to purchase a field for his daughter or her trousseau when she gets married, and the daughter maintains that she trusts her husband and that the money should be transferred to him, Rebbi Meir in our Mishnah holds that the trustee should nevertheless follow his instructions.
What does Rebbi Yossi say?

(b) In a Beraisa, Rebbi Meir repeats what he said in the Mishnah, but with regard to an Arusah.
What does he say about a Nesu'ah?

(c) Rebbi Yossi differentiates between a Gedolah and a Ketanah.
What does he say?

(a) We suggest that Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yossi argue over a Ketanah min ha'Nisu'in.
What will each one then hold?

(b) Why can the author of the Seifa of our Mishnah 'Bameh Devarim Amurim, bi'Gedolah, Aval bi'Ketanah, Ein Ma'aseh Ketanah K'lum' not be Rebbi Yossi?

(c) In order to establish it like Rebbi Meir, we add a whole section to the Mishnah (which also matches his opinion in the Beraisa) confining his statement there to an Arusah, but a Nesu'ah is permitted to switch the money from the trustee to her husband).
How does this enable us to dismiss the suggestion that Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yossi argue over a Ketanah min ha'Nisu'in?

(d) Over which case then, are they arguing?

9) Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel rules like Rebbi Yossi.
What does Rava Amar Rav Nachman say?


(a) Why did Ilfa suspend himself from the mast of a ship?

(b) What did he threaten to do?

(c) What do Beis-Din do if a dying man leaves instructions to give his sons ...

  1. ... a Shekel (half a Sela) per week, and they really need a Sela?
  2. ... only a Shekel per week, and they really need a Sela?
  3. ... a Shekel a week, adding that, in the event of their death, so-and-so are to inherit whatever is left?
(d) How did Ilfa connect this Beraisa with our Mishnah?
(a) In the case where the father leaves instructions to give his sons only a Shekel a week, how are their needs supplemented, according to the Tana of the Beraisa?

(b) How do we reconcile this with what we learned earlier (on Daf 48a), that if a man leaves instructions to pass on all his estate to his sons and to bury him from Tzedakah funds, we ignore his instructions?

(a) Rav Chisda Amar Mar Ukva rules not like this Beraisa.
What does he say?

(b) How does he reconcile his ruling with the traditional ruling 'Mitzvah Lekayem Divrei ha'Meis', like Rebbi Meir?

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