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Kesuvos 60


(a) We learned in the Beraisa that if the baby recognizes its mother, the father is obligated to pay his wife to feed him. Rav Shimi bar Abaye rules like Rebbi Yochanan, who gives the age of recognition as fifty days. Rav and Shmuel too, argue in this matter.
What age do they give respectively, as the age of recognition?

(b) Rami bar Yechezkel disagrees with the previous (his brother Rav Yehudah's) version of Shmuel's opinion.
Why is that?

(c) How does *he* cite Shmuel?

(a) In keeping with Rami bar Yechezkel's version of Shmuel, what did Shmuel instruct Rav Dimi bar Yosef to do, to ascertain whether the baby recognized his mother or not (to know whether the mother was obligated to feed her baby or not)?

(b) What happened? Did the baby in question recognize his mother?

(c) How would a blind baby recognize his mother?

(a) According to Rebbi Eliezer, a baby who feeds from his mother after the age of twenty-four months is compared to one who feeds from something that the Torah terms abominable.
What does Rebbi Yehoshua say?

(b) Under which circumstances will Rebbi Yehoshua agree with Rebbi Eliezer?

(a) What does the Tana learn from the Pasuk in Shemini "es ha'Gamal ki Ma'aleh Geirah *Hu*"?

(b) What would we otherwise learn from the fact that the milk of a non-Kasher animal is prohibited? What does the Tana mean by 'Adam she'Hechmarta be'Maga'ah'?

(c) How do we reconcile this with what we just learned (that to feed from a woman after twenty-four months or four or five years is like feeding from a Sheketz)?

(a) Why would we have thought that although the Tana precludes the milk of a woman from the prohibition of the milk of non-Kasher animals, he will not preclude that of blood?

(b) What (else) do we learn from "Hu" (see Tosfos DH 'Yachol'), or from "es Zeh Lo Sochlu" at the beginning of the Pasuk?

(c) What is the meaning of 've'Chilufa be'Dam'? What is the difference between blood on a slice of bread and blood still in one's mouth?

(d) Rav Yosef rules like Rebbi Yehoshua.
How do we reconcile Rebbi Yehoshua's Shiur of four or five years with another Beraisa, where Rebbi Yehoshua gives the Shiur as when he carried his package on his shoulders?

(a) Rav Yosef also rules like ...
  1. ... Rebbi Merinus.
    Why does Rebbi Merinus permit a Gonei'ach to feed from an animal on Shabbos? Why would this normally be forbidden?
  2. ... Nachum from France.
    What did Nachum from France permit one to do on Shabbos regarding a pipe that is being blocked by hard weeds?
(b) Considering that doing this would normally be considered a Chilul Shabbos, why did he permit it?
(a) How long must the baby have stopped feeding after twenty-four months before Rebbi Yehoshua agrees that it is like feeding from a Sheketz?

(b) Some quote Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel as the source for this statement. What do others say?

(c) According to Rebbi Meir in a Beraisa, a woman is forbidden to get engaged or married within twenty-four months after giving birth.
What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

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(a) Rebbi Yonasan ben Yosef connects the Machlokes between Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah to the same Machlokes between Beis Shamai (Rebbi Meir) and Beis Hillel (Rebbi Yehudah).
What did Raban Shimon ben Gamliel mean when he said 'Ani Achri'a'?

(b) On what basis did he reduce the Shiurim?

(c) Ula rules like Rebbi Yehudah.
What personal testimony did Mar Ukva give in the name of Rebbi Chanina?

(a) What did Abaye reply when his Aris (share-cropper) asked him for permission to get engaged after fifteen months?

(b) Abaye then went to Rav Yosef, who quoted him Rav and Shmuel.
What did *they* rule in this matter?

(c) What did he then try and do, but unsuccessfully?

(d) If the prohibition of ruling in the place of one's Rebbe is not because it looks like Apikorsus, then what is the reason? What caused Abaye to say this?

(a) What does the Beraisa say about a woman who gave her son to a wet-nurse, or if she weaned him or he died?

(b) What did that old woman tell Rav Papa and Rav Huna B'rei de'Rav Yehoshua wanted to follow the ruling of this Beraisa with regard to the first case mentioned in the Beraisa?

(c) Then on what grounds did Rav Nachman himself permit a woman from the family of the Resh Galusa to do so?

(a) Regarding a woman who, for some reason or other, was separated from her husband, or whose husband was unable to have relations with her, or one who was unable to have children, or with regard to getting married after her husband died, what does ...
  1. ... Rebbi Meir say?
  2. ... Rebbi Yossi say?
(b) Like which Tana did Rav Nachman Amar Shmuel rule?

(c) What did Rav Papa and Rav Huna B'rei de'Rav Yehoshua reply when Rav Papi asked them why they tried to rule like the above Beraisa (permitting a woman who hired a wet-nurse to marry immediately) in spite of this ruling?

(d) We conclude that if her baby died, the woman is permitted to marry immediately, but not if she weaned him.
Why ...

  1. ... the distinction?
  2. ... do we not rule like Mar bar Rav Ashi? On what grounds do we decline to take our cue from the story of the woman who actually strangled her baby in order to be able to remarry immediately?
(a) Having taught us that a wet-nurse is forbidden to feed her own baby during that period, why does the Tana need to add that she is also not permitted to feed someone else's?

(b) How does Rav Sheishes explain the words of the Tana 'Paskah Kim'ah, Ocheles Harbeh'? Where does the extra food come from?

(c) She must take care with regard to her diet. Rav Kahana presents the list of forbidden foods as hops, small fish and earth, Abaye adds pumpkin and quince, Rav Papa, pumpkin and small dates. Rav Ashi adds a preserve comprising bread, milk and salt.
Why are all these foods not good for a feeding woman?

(a) Intimacy in a mill results in children who suffer from epilepsy; on the ground, in children with long necks.
What sort of children can one expect if one is intimate after ...
  1. ... treading on the blood of a donkey?
  2. ... regularly eating mustard?
(b) Regularly eating cress, results in children who have watery eyes, small fish, children with darting eyes.
What sort of children can someone who constantly ...
  1. ... eats clay and who drinks beer expect?
  2. ... meat and drinks wine expect?
(c) Eating eggs leads to children with big eyes, fish, to children with a lot of Chein (who are popular), and wild celery, to beautiful children.
What sort of children can one expect if one eats ...
  1. ... coriander seeds?
  2. ... an esrog?
(d) The daughter of Shavur Malka (king of Persia) was conceived after her mother had eaten an esrog.
What was the result?
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