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KESUVOS 70 - dedicated by Uri Wolfson and Naftali Wilk in honor of Rav
Mordechai Rabin of Har Nof, a true beacon of Torah and Chesed.
16) ONE WHO LEAVES MONEY FOR HIS CHILDREN
(a) (Rav Chisda): The law is, whether or not he said 'only',
we give them all they need.
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(b) Question: But we hold, the law is as R. Meir, who says it
is a Mitzvah to fulfill the words of the deceased!
(c) Answer: That is in other cases - here, the deceased wants
his children to have their full needs - he only said what
he did so they should be frugal.
(d) (Mishnah): Pa'utos (mature children) - their purchase and
sale are valid in Metaltelim.
(e) (Rafram): But if they have a guardian, their purchase and
sale are invalid.
1. The end of our Mishnah teaches this - 'the actions
of a minor are void'.
2. Question: Perhaps this is only when the property was
entrusted to a 3rd party!
3. Answer: If so, the Mishnah should have said, but by
a minor, the 3rd party does as he was instructed.
i. 'The actions of a minor are void' teaches that
they are always void (when there is a
1) ONE WHO PROHIBITS HIS WIFE THROUGH A VOW
(f) (Mishnah): One who vows that his wife should not get
benefit from him - up to 30 days, he arranges that
someone else feed her; beyond this, he divorces her and
pays her Kesuvah;
(g) R. Yehudah says, a Yisrael that vows thusly may keep his
wife for 1 month; 2 months, he must divorce her and give
her Kesuvah; by a Kohen, he keeps her 2 months; 3 months,
he must divorce her and give her Kesuvah.
(h) One who prohibits any type of fruit on his wife through a
vow - he divorces her and pays her Kesuvah; R. Yehudah
says, a Yisrael may keep her for 1 day; 2 days, he must
divorce her and give her Kesuvah; by a Kohen, he keeps
her 2 days; 3 days, he must divorce her and give her
(i) One who prohibits any type of cosmetics on his wife
through a vow - he divorces her and pays her Kesuvah; R.
Yehudah says, a poor woman, if he gave no limit to the
duration of the vow; by a rich woman, 30 days.
(j) (Gemara) Question: Since he is obligated to her - how can
he prohibit her through a vow to uproot his obligation?!
1. A wife that says 'Konam (should be forbidden as a
sacrifice) what I produce to your mouth' - the
husband does not need to annul this.
(k) Answer #1: Since he can say, 'Use your earnings to feed
yourself' - it is as if he said this.
i. Since she is obligated to him, she cannot
uproot her obligation!
2. Here too, he cannot uproot his obligation to feed
17) FEEDING ONE THAT MAY NOT GET BENEFIT
1. Rav Huna taught: A wife can tell her husband, do not
feed me and I will keep my earnings.
(l) Answer #2: Rather, the case is, he explicitly said 'Use
your earnings to feed yourself.'
2. Question: According to Rav Huna, when she says,
'What I produce is Konam to your mouth' - why
doesn't the husband need to annul this?
i. We should say, it is as if she says, do not
feed me and I will keep my earnings!
1. Question: If so, why does he need someone to feed
(m) Answer #4: He vowed when she was engaged (before he was
obligated to feed her).
2. Answer: Her earnings do not suffice to feed her.
3. Objection: If her earnings do not suffice, the
question returns (he is obligated to supply the
shortcoming - his vow should not take effect)!
4. Answer (Rav Ashi): Her earnings suffice for big
things, but not for small things.
5. Question: What kind of small things are these?
i. Suggestion #1: If she is used to them - he must
6. Answer: She was used to them in her father's house,
but not with her husband.
ii. Suggestion #2: If she is not used to them - why
must he have someone supply them to her?
i. She tells him, 'Until now, with you, I could
manage without them. Now that you vowed, I need
7. Question: Why can someone else supply these things
only until 30 days?
8. Answer: Until 30 days, people do not know she is
being supplied, there is no disgrace. After 30 days,
people hear that she is being supplied, she is
1. Question: If so, why must he have someone supply her
needs - he has no obligation!
(n) Answer #5 He vowed when she was engaged, and then married
2. Answer: The planned time of Chupah came, and he did
not marry her.
i. (Mishnah): If the time came and they were not
married, she eats his food, and she eats
3. Question: Why does this only apply until 30 days?
4. Answer: A messenger will fulfill his mission for 30
days and no longer.
1. Objection: If they were married - she knew about the
vow, and accepted to marry him anyway (why must he
divorce her and pay a Kesuvah)!
2. Answer: She says, 'I thought that I could endure it;
now I see that I cannot.'
3. Objection: We only say that regarding blemishes -
would we say it regarding food?
i. Rather, we must answer as one of the above
(a) (Mishnah): Until 30 days, he has someone feed her.
(b) Question: Isn't this person acting as the husband's
messenger (it should be forbidden, as if the husband
himself is feeding her)!
(c) Answer (Rav Huna): He said, whoever feeds her will not
(d) Question: Is this not considered as acting as the
1. (Mishnah): Someone who is in a pit and cries,
whoever hears my voice should write a Get to my wife
- people that hear this may write and give a Get.
(e) Answer: That is different - there, he instructed (whoever
hears his voice) to write - here, he did not instruct to
feed, he just said, whoever feeds will not lose!
(f) Question: R. Ami taught, regarding a fire (on Shabbos), a
person may say, 'Whoever extinguishes will not lose.'
1. Suggestion: By a fire, it is allowed - but not in
(g) Question (Rabah - Mishnah): Reuven is forbidden by a vow
from getting benefit from Shimon, and lacks food. Shimon
may go to a grocer he often buys from, and say, 'Reuven
cannot get benefit from me - I don't know what to do for
2. Rejection: No, by a fire, it is allowed - but not by
other prohibitions of Shabbos.
1. The grocer gives to Reuven, and collects the money
(h) (Mishnah): Reuven is forbidden by a vow from getting
benefit from Shimon, and lacks food. Shimon may go to a
grocer he often buys from, and say, 'Reuven cannot get
benefit from me - I don't know what to do for him'!
2. Suggestion: This is allowed, but not saying "Anyone
3. Rejection: No, this is also allowed - the Mishnah
teaches a greater Chidush!
i. Not only "Anyone that feeds" is allowed, since
he is speaking in general - but in the Mishnah,
he is frequent by the grocer, and he tells him
- it is as if he tells him to feed him - still,
it is allowed!
1. The grocer gives to Reuven, and collects the money
(i) Reuven had to build his house, or a fence, or harvest his
field. Shimon goes to workers, and says, Reuven cannot
get benefit from me - I don't know what to do for him'.
1. The workers work for Reuven, and collect their wages
(j) They were walking on the road, and Reuven lacks food.
Shimon gives to a 3rd party as a gift, and Reuven may
take from him.
1. If there is no one else there, Shimon puts the food
on a rock or fence and says, "It is ownerless for
whoever would like it"; Reuven may take it and eat
it; R. Yosi forbids this.
(k) (Rava): R. Yosi forbids this on account of a gift as Beis
Choron (a case in which a totally insincere gift was
given to evade a vow not to derive benefit).