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Prepared by P. Feldman
of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous daf Kesuvos 56
KESUVOS 55 & 56 - have been dedicated by Rabbi Avi Feldman and his sisters in
memory of their mother (yahrzeit: 11 Iyar), ha'Rabbanit Sara Dvasya bas Rav
1) THE FINAL RULING
(a) Answer: Rather, both Rav and R. Nasan go after
assessment. We understand the one who said that the law
is as R. Elazar Ben Azaryah.
2) WHEN IS THE ADDITION TO THE KESUVAH ACQUIRED?
1. The one who said that the law is not as him - here,
the assessment is that he increases the Kesuvah
because of the feeling of closeness, and this
happens (before Nesu'in).
(b) R. Chanina: The law is as R. Elazar Ben Azaryah.
(c) R. Yanai: Do not teach thusly in the Beis Midrash - the
law is as Chachamim.
(d) R. Yitzchak Bar Avdimi: Rabeinu says, the law is as R.
Elazar Ben Azaryah.
(e) Rav Nachman: Shmuel says, the law is as R. Elazar Ben
1. Rav Nachman himself says, the law is not as R.
Elazar Ben Azaryah.
(f) Nehardai: Rav Nachman says, the law is as R. Elazar Ben
1. Even though Rav Nachman cursed any judge that will
rule as R. Elazar Ben Azaryah - the law is as R.
Elazar Ben Azaryah.
(g) In practice, the law is as R. Elazar Ben Azaryah.
(a) Question (Ravin): If there was Chupah, but not relations
- does she receive the addition to the Kesuvah?
3) STIPULATIONS CONTRARY TO TORAH
1. Does the dearness of Chupah acquire?
(b) (Rav Yosef): He only wrote the addition for the dearness
of the first night.
2. Or, does the dearness of relations acquire?
1. We understand if the dearness of Chupah acquires -
this is the first night.
(c) Question: If the dearness of relations acquires - will
they only have relations the first night?
1. Counter-question: If you say, the dearness of Chupah
- is Chupah only at night?
(d) Question (Rav Ashi): If she entered Chupah and became
Nidah, what is the law?
i. Counter-counter-question: Can you say that
relations are only at night?
2. We did not yet answer - if you say, the dearness of
Chupah - is Chupah only at night?
A. (Rava): In a dark house, it is permitted by
ii. Answer: Rav Yosef teaches that it is normal to
have relations at night.
3. Answer: Since Chupah is for relations, it is normal
to do it at night.
1. If you say, dearness of Chupah acquires - is this
only a Chupah fitting for relations, or is there no
(e) (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): He may write to a virgin ...
i. The question is unsettled.
(f) Question: Does R. Yehudah really hold, we write receipts?
1. (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): One who paid part of his
debt - we destroy the first document and write a new
one for the remaining debt;
(g) Answer #1 (R. Yirmeyah): The receipt is written in the
2. R. Yosi says, we write a receipt.
(h) Answer #2 (Abaye): The receipt need not be written in the
1. In the case of the loan, he certainly paid; if he
takes a receipt, perhaps he will lose it and have to
(i) We understand, Abaye did not answer as R. Yirmeyah - the
Mishnah does not say that the receipt is in the Kesuvah.
2. In our case, he did not pay anything - she merely
*said* she received part - if he guards the receipt,
fine; if not, he caused his own loss!
(j) Question: Why didn't R. Yirmeyah learn as Abaye?
(k) Answer: We decree not to write a receipt in the case, on
account of a regular case.
(a) The Mishnah implies that she must write that she received
100; it is not enough that she says so.
(b) Question: But this is a monetary matter - and R. Yehudah
holds such stipulations work!
(c) (Beraisa - R. Meir): One who engages a woman on condition
that he is not obligated to give her food, clothing or
relations - the engagement takes effect, his stipulation
(d) R. Yehudah says, in monetary matters, the stipulation is
(e) Answer: R. Yehudah holds that Kesuvah is a Rabbinical
enactment, and Chachamim strengthened their words more
than Torah laws.
(f) Question: But a husband eats the fruits of his wife's
land by Rabbinical enactment, and this was not
1. (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): A man always eats the fruits
of his wife's land, unless he writes that he has no
rights to her property, its fruits, the fruits of
its fruits ad infinitum.
4) STIPULATIONS TO REDUCE THE KESUVAH
2. When the Mishnah says 'writes', it really means
(g) Answer (Abaye): Every wife has a Kesuvah, not all have
fruits; Chachamim strengthened their enactment by
Kesuvah, since this is common, and not by fruits, which
(h) Question: But donkey-drivers (merchants) are common, and
Chachamim did not strengthen their enactment!
1. (Mishnah): 2 merchants enter a city. One says, 'My
produce is new, his is old; mine is untithed, his is
tithed' - they are not believed; R. Yehudah says,
they are believed.
(i) Answer #1 (Abaye): A definite Rabbinical enactment was
strengthened, not a doubtful one.
(j) Answer #2 (Rava): Chachamim were lenient by Demai
(produce of a common person who is not established as
reliable regarding tithes.
(a) (Mishnah - R. Meir): Anyone who reduces the Kesuvah from
(b) *Anyone* who reduces - even with a condition!
1. He must hold, the condition is null, and the Kesuvah
is 200 anyway; since he said that it is only 100,
she does not feel that it is 200, and such relations
(c) Question: But R. Meir holds that one who makes a
condition contrary to Torah, the condition is null -
implying, contrary to Rabbinical law, it is valid!
(d) Answer: R. Meir holds that Kesuvah is mid'Oraisa.
(e) (Beraisa): R. Meir says, anyone who reduces the Kesuvah
of a virgin from 200, or of a non-virgin from 100, such
relations are harlotry;
1. R. Yosi says, he is permitted; R. Yehudah says, he
may write 200 to a virgin, and she writes that she
received 100; he may write 100 to a non-virgin, and
she writes that she received 50.
(f) Question: Does R. Yosi really hold that he is permitted?
(g) Contradiction (Beraisa): To fix the world, we do not
designate Metaltelim to pay a Kesuvah; R. Yosi asks, how
does this fix the world? Their value is not fixed, and
1. Question: The first Tana also said that Metaltelim
may not be used!
(h) Answer: This is not difficult! She does not know that
Metaltelim will depreciate, that she should pardon the
loss - in our case, she knowingly pardoned the decrease!
2. Answer: Rather, the 1st Tana qualifies: they may not
be used when he did not accept responsibility (to
complete payment from other property); if he
accepted responsibility, they may be used;
i. R. Yosi says, even if he accepted
responsibility, they may not be used - their
value is not fixed, and they depreciate!
3. We see that R. Yosi is concerned, lest they
depreciate - when he stipulates to definitely
decrease the Kesuvah, all the more so!