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Kesuvos 54


1. Since a Sheniyah has no Kesuvah, her daughter is not fed (there are no provisions of the Kesuvah).
2. Or, perhaps Chachamim only fined the mother, who sinned, but not her daughter.
i. The question is unresolved.
(b) Question (Rava): The daughter of his engaged wife - is she fed (after he dies)?
1. Since an engaged wife has a Kesuvah, the daughter is fed.
2. Or, since she has no Kesuvah until Nisu'in, she is not fed.
i. The question is unresolved.
(c) Question (Rav Papa): The daughter of a woman raped by a man (who paid the fine and married her) - is she fed after he dies?
1. According to R. Yosi Bar Yehudah, clearly she is fed - he says, the raped woman has a Kesuvah of 100.
2. The question is according to Chachamim, who say that the fine is in place of her Kesuvah.
i. Since she has no Kesuvah, the daughter is not fed.
ii. Or, we say that a regular wife has a Kesuvah, so it should not be light in her husband's eyes to divorce her; this does not apply to a rapist, who cannot divorce her - (but other provisions of the Kesuvah would apply).
iii. The question is unresolved.
(a) (Mishnah): 'You will sit in my house ...'
(b) (Rav Yosef - Beraisa): In my house - not in my shack (if the husband did not leave a proper house, just a shack, she has no privilege to stay in it); she is fed. (c) (Mar Bar Rav Ashi): In such a case, she is not fed.
1. The law is not as Mar Bar Rav Ashi.
(d) (Rav Nachman citing Shmuel): If they asked to marry her and she agreed she is not fed.
(e) Question: If she did not agree, she is fed?!
(f) Answer (Rav Anan): I received from Shmuel - if she refused on account of her deceased husband, she is fed; because the suitor was not fitting, she is not fed.
(g) (Rav Chisda): If she had extramarital relations, she is not fed.
(h) (Rav Yosef): If she colored her eyes and beautified herself, she is not fed.
1. Rav Chisda, who says she is not fed if she had extramarital relations, certainly agrees that she is not fed if she colored her eyes.
2. Rav Yosef, who said that she is not fed if she colored her eyes, would say that she is fed if she had extramarital relations.
i. The reason is, her evil inclination forced her.
(i) The law is unlike all these teachings; rather, it is as Rav Yehudah.
1. (Rav Yehudah): If she demanded to be paid her Kesuvah in Beis Din, she is not fed.
2. Question (Beraisa): If she sold her Kesuvah, used it as collateral or designated that it will be used to pay a loan, she is not fed.
i. For these, she forfeits being fed - but not for demanding payment!
3. Answer: For these, she forfeits being fed, whether she did them in Beis Din or not; she only loses food for demanding payment in Beis Din.
(j) (Mishnah): So wrote people of Yerushalayim ...
(k) (Rav): The law is as the people of Yehudah.
(l) (Shmuel): The law is as the people of Galil.
1. Bavel and its nearby cities conduct as Rav; Nehardai and its nearby cities conduct as Shmuel.
(m) A woman from Mechuza was married to a man of Nehardai. She came to Rav Nachman, who could tell from her voice that she was from Mechuza (which is near Bavel). He judged her case as Rav.
(n) Chachamim: But she married a man from Nehardai!
(o) Rav Nachman: If so, her case is judged as Shmuel.
(p) Question: How far do we consider Nehardai (and its nearby cities)?
(q) Answer: As far as the Kav (a measure) of Nehardai is used.
(a) (Rav): We evaluate the clothing a widow is wearing (and it is considered partial payment of her Kesuvah).
(b) (Shmuel): The clothing she is wearing is not deducted from her Kesuvah.
(c) (R. Chiya Bar Avin): They hold oppositely regarding a hired worker.
(d) Rav Nachman: They argue similarly by a hired worker.
1. Rav gave a way to remember his opinion - A widow and a worker, strip them and send them.
(e) (Rav Nachman): Even though a Mishnah supports Shmuel, the law is as Rav.
1. (Mishnah): One who makes his property Hekdesh, or pledges his (fixed) value to Hekdesh, the Gizbar (treasurer of Hekdesh) does not collect from his wife's or children's clothing, nor from clothing dyed for their usage, nor from new sandals bought for them.
(f) Question (Rava): Since the Mishnah supports Shmuel, why is the law as Rav?
(g) Answer (Rav Nachman): The Mishnah appears to support Shmuel; when you look deeper, you see that it does not.
1. The Gizbar not collect from her clothing, because the husband gave it to her to wear in front of him (i.e. during the marriage).
2. He did not give it to her to leave with.
(h) The daughter-in-law of Bar Elyashiv's house wanted to be paid her Kesuvah; she was taking the orphans to Beis Din.
(i) Orphans: It is a disgrace to us, that you should appear this way in Beis Din!
1. She put on all her ornaments and came to Beis Din.
2. Ravina: The law is as Rav, we evaluate what she is wearing.
(a) A dying man said that his daughter should receive a (standard) dowry of clothing; the price went down.
(b) (R. Chiya Bar Avin): The orphans profit.

(c) A man said that 400 Zuz from his wine should go to his daughter; the price of wine increased.
(d) (Rav Yosef): The profit goes to the orphans.
(e) R. Yochanan's relatives were concerned that their father's wife was spending too much on food. He counseled them to ask their father to designate some land towards her food.
(f) After the father dies, they came in front of Reish Lakish.
1. Reish Lakish: The father gave this land so she should have extra food!
2. Orphans: R. Yochanan did not say that!
3. Reish Lakish: Give her, or I will withdraw R. Yochanan's support from you!
4. They came to R. Yochanan.
5. R. Yochanan: What can I do - my colleague argues on me!
6. (R. Avahu): R. Yochanan explained to me - if he said '*Towards* her food' - he is giving extra; '*For* her food' - he is setting a limit.
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(a) (Mishnah): Even though Chachamim said that the Kesuvah of a virgin is 200, and of a non-virgin 100, one may add 10,000 if he wants; if she is widowed or divorced, whether from engagement or Nisu'in, she collects it all;
(b) R. Elazar Ben Azaryah says, from Nisu'in she collects it all; from engagement, she collects 100 or 200.
1. He only wrote that he would give more on condition that they have Nisu'in.
(c) R. Yehudah says, he may write 200 to a virgin, and she writes that she received 100; he may write 100 to a non-virgin, and she writes that she received 50;
(d) R. Meir says, anyone that reduced the Kesuvah from 200/100, relations with his wife is as harlotry.
(e) (Gemara) Question: This is obvious - why shouldn't a man be allowed to add?
(f) Answer: We would think, Chachamim did not want him to do so, since this will shame one who cannot give so much.
(g) The Mishnah did not say, one who wants to write, rather, one who wants to add - this supports R. Aibo.
1. (R. Aibo): Conditions of the Kesuvah are as the Kesuvah. This is relevant to a woman who:
i. Sells or pardons her Kesuvah;
ii. Rebels (refuses to have relations with her husband);
iii. Received partial payment of the Kesuvah;
iv. Demands payment of her Kesuvah;
v. Acts contrary to Torah;
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