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Gitin 83

GITIN 83-85 - Dedicated by an admirer of the work of the Dafyomi Advancement Forum, l'Iluy Nishmas Mrs. Gisela Turkel, Golda bas Reb Chaim Yitzchak Ozer, A"H.


(a) After Rebbi Eliezer's death, Rebbi Yossi Hagelili, Rebbi Tarfon and Rebbi Elazar ben Azaryah went in to query his rulings.
Who was the fourth sage?

(b) What do all five queries have in common?

(c) Rebbi Tarfon queried Rebbi Eliezer who rules that, in the case of 'Harei At Muteres le'Chol Adam Ela li'P'loni', she is permitted to everyone except for P'loni.
What problem does Rebbi Tarfon have with this ruling regarding the Mitzvah of Yibum?

(d) Rebbi Yossi Hagelili asks that we never find a woman permitted to one person and forbidden to someone else.
What does Rebbi Elazar ben Azaryah ask from the very word "K'risus"?

(a) The most dramatic objection to Rebbi Eliezer's ruling comes from Rebbi Akiva.
What problem does he have with a case where the woman remarried, her second husband died and she then went and married P'loni?

(b) In his second explanation, what 'Kal va'Chomer' does Rebbi Akiva Darshen to (negate the Get and) forbid the woman on the world, assuming that P'loni is a Kohen?

(c) On what grounds did Rebbi Yehoshua object to the above meeting?

(a) Rava has a Pircha (a knockout) on all the Tana's Kashyos, except for one.
Which one?

(b) He has the support of a Beraisa.
Who is the author of the Beraisa?

(a) Rebbi Tarfon queries Rebbi Eliezer from the fact that, should the woman marry P'loni's brother and he dies without children, her husband will have uprooted the Mitzvah of Yibum.
On what grounds do we ...
  1. ... amend this statement?
  2. ... refute the suggestion to amend it from 'Oker Davar min ha'Torah' to 'Masneh La'akor Davar min ha'Torah'?
(b) So what is the final version of Rebbi Tarfon's query?

(c) How does Rava refute Rebbi Tarfon's proof? What precedent do we have for a similar set of circumstances, where the Mitzvah of Yibum is uprooted?

(d) How do we know that Rebbi Tarfon's query is from 'al-M'nas' and not from 'Chutz'?

(a) Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili bases his Kashya on the fact that nowhere do we find the concept of someone/something being forbidden to one person and permitted to another.
What Pircha does Rava ask on this?

(b) Why can he not ask his Pircha from...

  1. ... Terumah and Kodshei Kodshim, that are forbidden to a Yisrael but permitted to a Kohen?
  2. ... the Arayos, who are forbidden to their relatives but permitted to everyone else?
(c) How do we know that Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili's query is from 'Chutz' and not from 'al-M'nas'?
(a) Rebbi Akiva bases his query on the fact that the woman might marry P'loni, after becoming divorced or widowed from her second husband, thereby breaking her condition ... .
What is Rava's Pircha on Rebbi Akiva?

(b) How do we know that Rebbi Akiva's query is from 'al-M'nas'?

(c) In the second Lashon, he asks from a case where 'P'loni is a Kohen, from a 'Kal va'Chomer'.
How do we know that his query there is from 'Chutz' and not from 'al-M'nas'?

(d) How can Rebbi Akiva ask once from 'al-M'nas' and once from 'Chutz'? Either Rebbi Eliezer argues with the Chachamim by the one or by the other, but certainly not by both, as we learnt earlier?

(a) What is Rava's Pircha on Rebbi Akiva's second explanation, which is based on a 'Kal va'Chomer' from the name of 'Gerushah' on to 'the name 'Eishes Ish'?

(b) How do we answer the Kashya on Rava that, when all's said and done, Rebbi Elieszer's very ruling is based on the Pasuk ''ve'Ishah Gerushah me'Iyshah", as Rebbi Yochanan explained above (proving that Rebbi Eliezer does not consider this a Kashya)?

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(a) Considering that Rebbi Yehoshua also had a Pircha on Rebbi Eliezer, how could he state 'Ein Meshivin es ha'Ari le'Achar Misah'?

(b) What did Rebbi Yehoshua ask on Rebbi Eliezer, based on the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "Ki *Yikach* Ish Ishah ... ve'Yatz'ah *ve'Haysah* le'Ish Acher"?

(c) Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar too, asked on Rebbi Eliezer.
What did he mean when he said 'Heichan Matzinu she'Zeh Oser ve'Zeh Matir'?

(d) On what grounds do we repudiate the Kashya on Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar from ...

  1. ... a Yevamah, whose Yavam permits what her husband forbade?
  2. ... a Chacham, who permits what the Noder forbade?
  3. ... a husband, who annuls the Neder that his wife declared?
(a) We learned above that Rebbi ben Azaryah learns from "K'risus" that the divorce must break the tie between husband and wife completely.
What do the Rabbanan (who do not query Rebbi Eliezer from there) learn from "K'risus"?

(b) From where Rebbi Elazar ben Azaryah learn this Halachah?

(c) What do the Rabbanan learn from "Kareis - K'risus"?

(a) What does Rava initially say about a man who gives his wife a Get on condition that she does not drink wine for ...
  1. ... as long as he lives?
  2. ... as long as so-and-so lives?
(b) On what grounds do we object to this distinction?

(c) So what distinction did Rava really make?

(a) Rava asked Rav Nachman whether the Get will be valid if the man gives it to his wife stipulating that today she would not be his wife, but tomorrow she would be his wife again.
Why might this T'nai ...
  1. ... not be valid even according to Rebbi Eliezer who permits Shiyur?
  2. ... be valid even according to the Rabbanan who do not?
(b) What did Rava himself conclude?

(c) What happens tomorrow?

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