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Gitin 66

GITIN 66 & 67 - Anonymously dedicated by an ardent supporter who wants the Zechus of spreading Torah throughout the world.


(a) What did Geniva announce as he was being led out in chains to be executed?

(b) What did Rebbi Zeira mean when he commented that Rebbi Avina should take his basket and go to Rav Huna his Rebbe?

(c) Rav Huna made two statements regarding the two-way comparison of a Shechiv-Mera's Get to his Matanah.
What did he say about ...

  1. ... a Shechiv-Mera retracting from his Get?
  2. ... the Matanah of a Shechiv-Mera?
(d) Do we also extend this comparison to say that his Get, like his Matanah, will apply even after his death?
(a) What Rebbi Aba (who was mistakenly quoted as having asked why we could not make the previous comparison) really meant to ask on Rebbi Zeira was from the fact that Geniva's gift was only a Matanah be'Miktzas.
What was he asking?

(b) How do we answer this (on behalf of Rebbi Zeira and) Rav Huna? Did (t)he(y) not know that a Matanah be'Miktzas by a Shechiv-Mera requires a Kinyan?

(c) In that case, did Rebbi Aba not know that 'Metzaveh Machmas Misah' does not require a Kinyan? What then prompted him to ask such a Kashya?

(d) Why *did* Geniva say 'me'Chamra'?

(a) The Tana of our Mishnah rules that in the event that someone who fell into a deep pit calls out that whoever hears his voice should write his wife a Get, whoever hears may write the Get and hand it to his wife.
How do we know who it is?

(b) Why are we not afraid that it is a demon who spoke?

(c) Considering that demons also have shadows like humans, how will we ultimately know that he was a human and not a demon? What did Yonasan the demon teach Rebbi Chanina?

(d) Why do we not suspect that it was the woman's rival wife who is out to get her into trouble?

(a) What does the Tana say about a healthy person who says 'Kisvu Get le'Ishti'?

(b) What does Raban Shimon ben Gamliel say about a man who says 'Kisvu Get le'Ishti' before ascending to the roof and falling off?

(c) A story in a Mishnah always comes to illustrate the Halachah that it is teaching us.
How do we explain the fact that the story in our Mishnah clashes with the Halachah that precedes it?

(a) What do we know about the three men whom that man found sitting in Shul?

(b) After he appointed two of them to write a Get for his wife, the children's Rebbe died.
What Safek did that give rise to?

(c) Rav Nachman rules that one does not normally appoint a son to be his Sheli'ach as an alternative to the father.
What does Rav Papi say?

(d) What is the final ruling in this matter?

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(a) What do two people whom a man appointed to give a Get to his wife and three people whom he asked to write a Get and give it to her, have in common?

(b) How do we know that he did not appoint the three men to be a Beis-Din?

(c) Had he not added the word 'Kisvu', they would indeed have had the authority of a Beis-Din to appoint others to write the Get and give it to the man's wife.
Who is the author of this Mishnah?

(d) Rebbi Chanina from Ono actually cited this Halachah when he returned from prison. In whose name did he quote it?

(a) Rebbi Yossi disagrees with Rebbi Chanina.
What did he tell 'the Sheli'ach' about a husband who says to the Beis-Din ha'Gadol 'T'nu Get le'Ishti'? Whom did Rebbi Yossi mean when he referred to 'the Sheli'ach?

(b) What is his reason?

(c) What does the Tana say about someone who says to ten people ...

  1. ... 'Kisvu u'T'nu Get le'Ishti'.
  2. ... 'Kulchem K'suvu'?
(d) What are the ramifications of the latter Halachah?
(a) Rebbi Yirmiyah bar Aba informs us that Rav's Beis-Hamedrash sent Shmuel the She'eilah whether, if someone instructed two people 'Kisvu u'T'nu Get le'Ishti', and they subsequently asked a Sofer to write it, but signed it themselves, the Get is Kasher or not.
What exactly, was the She'eilah?

(b) What was Shmuel's reply?

(c) Why can Shmuel's Safek not have been whether 'Mili Mimseri li'Sheli'ach' or not?

(d) What then, was Shmuel's Safek?

(a) How do we ...
  1. ... try and resolve the She'eilah from Rebbi Yossi in our Mishnah, who requires the Beis-Din Hagadol to learn how to write a Get?
  2. ... refute the proof?
(b) Having already ruled like Rebbi Yossi who holds 'Mili Lo Mimseran li'Sheli'ach', how can Shmuel even suggest that a Get that is written by someone else other than the appointee, should be Kasher?
(a) The Tana (in 'Mi she'Achzo') states 'Kasav Sofer ve'Eid, Kasher'.
What does this mean?

(b) How does Rebbi Yirmiyah amend the Mishnah?

(c) How does Rav Chisda extrapolate from here that the author must be Rebbi Yossi?

(d) How do we use this combination to ask how Shmuel can possibly hold that Rebbi Yossi concedes that the Get is Kasher if the husband said 'Imru'?

(a) How do we initially attempt to answer this Kashya?

(b) All of this is in accordance with Rebbi Yirmiyah, who established the Mishnah 'Kasav Sofer ve'Eid' according to Rebbi Yossi.
Notwithstanding the fact that, in principle, Shmuel agrees with the outcome of the Sugya (see Tosfos DH 'Lo Shechicha'), how will he answer the original Kashya on himself (from the Mishnah of 'Kasav Sofer ve'Eid') much more simply?

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