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Gitin 64

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(a) According to Rav Huna, if the husband claims that he gave the Get to a trustee to look after, but the trustee argues that he gave it to him as a Sheli'ach, we believe the husband.
Why is that?

(b) What does Rav Chisda say?

(c) What does the Beraisa add in connection with a trustee after stating the principle 'Hoda'as Ba'al-Din ke'Me'ah Eidim Dami'?

(d) How will Rav Huna ...

  1. ... explain this Beraisa?
  2. ... interpret 've'Chein le'Gitin' (in the same Beraisa)?
  3. ... explain the Beraisa 've'Chein li'Sh'taros' (which seems to indicate that Gitin means Gitei Nashim?
(a) The second pair of witnesses required by the Tana of our Mishnah testifies that the Sheli'ach received the Get and tore it.
How will Rav Chisda, who believes the trustee, explain our Mishnah? Why is the trustee not believed?

(b) Why are witnesses nevertheless required to testify that the Sheli'ach received the Get, seeing as this is evident?

(c) And how does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav explain the significance of the torn Get?

(a) Rabah maintains that if the woman testified that the trustee told her that her husband had given him the Get to hand to her, even Rav Huna will believe the Sheli'ach.
On what grounds do we refute this statement?

(b) Then what did Rabah really say?

(c) Why would she be believed in that case?

(a) What does Rebbi Yochanan say about a case where the husband claims that he gave the Get into the hands of the Sheli'ach, the Sheli'ach corroborates this, and the woman maintains that the Sheli'ach did indeed hand her the Get?

(b) Why can we not believe the trustee in this case?

(c) Why do we initially think that we ought to believe the husband?

(d) So why don't we?

(a) What ruling did Rebbi Yitzchak issue in the case of someone who asked his Sheli'ach to betroth a woman on his behalf, and the Sheli'ach died? Upon which principle is this based?

(b) By the same token, why do we not believe the woman who says that the Sheli'ach handed her the Get?

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(a) What does Rav Hamnuna say about a woman who says to her husband 'Gerashtani'?

(b) Why?

(c) Then why is she not believed, when she claims that the Sheli'ach handed her the Get?

(a) The Tana Kama of our Mishnah authorizes both the Na'arah herself and her father to receive her Get.
What does Rebbi Yehudah say? What is his reason?

(b) How does the Tana Kama counter this?

(c) What kind of woman cannot be divorced?

(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "ve'Shilchah mi'Beiso"?

(b) Rebbi Yochanan explains the Beraisa, which defines 'Ketanah she'Meshameres Gitah Machmas Davar Acher' of the Beraisa (who can be divorced) as one who, should she lose her Get, will guard another object in its place.
On what grounds does Rav Huna bar Mano'ach refute Rebbi Yochanan's explanation?

(c) So how does he, quoting Rav Acha B'rei de'Rav Ika explain the Beraisa?

(a) According to Rav Yehudah Amar Rebbi Asi, to what extent will a Katan who is sufficiently intelligent to throw away a clod of earth that one offers him, but to retain a nut, acquire?

(b) How intelligent must he be before he can acquire on behalf of others? Is this min ha'Torah or mi'deRabbanan?

(c) When Rav Yehudah told Shmuel about Rebbi Asi's distinction, he retorted 'Da ve'Da Achas Hi'.
What did he mean?

(a) What is 'Shitufei Mavo'os'?

(b) What would it normally consist of?

(c) The Tana of a Beraisa permits one person placing the barrel of wine to be Mezakeh all the members of his particular Mavoy through his big son or daughter or through his Jewish Eved or Shifchah.
What would be the ...

  1. ... minimum age of an Eved Ivri?
  2. ... age of a Shifchah Amah) Ivri'ah?
(d) How will Shmuel, according to whom a Katan cannot acquire for others, explain this Beraisa?
(a) Why did Rav Chisda think that Rav Chinena Vardan (who posed the previous Kashya on Shmuel) should not have accepted the answer that we gave?

(b) How do we resolve Rav Chisda's problem?

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